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Posted by jon_banquer on July 2, 2009, 10:21 pm
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The only one I've ever used is my Darex M5. I purchased the unit when
I lived in Phoenix because a shop I worked for was drilling a lot of
weldments and I got tired of using beat to "s" drills. After the shop
owner saw me using it he agreed to pay me to sharpen the shops drills
on the side. It didn't take long for me to pay for the Darex M5. I
haven't had the need to use it since.
In any case, the point of this post is that it seems to me that many
people expect that you put a beat to "s" drill in a drill sharpener
and it automatically gives you a perfect drill with split points and
the web properly thinned. The Darex M5 certainly doesn't work like
this. You have to adjust it and keep tweaking it in till it's
right.... then you can do other drills which are the same size without
adjustment.
With the large drill attachment and I think one for small drills I
believe I paid like $1,300 for the Darex M5. My M5 has diamond wheels
and easily does cobalt drills.
Once you have things dialed in on the Darex M5 you get a drill that
easily holds size and that drills properly.
Since I haven't used other drill sharpeners I wonder if with other
drill sharpeners you can sharpen a drill without the need to tweak the
drill in if you change drill sizes? If something like this exists if
it's as portable as the Darex M5 and what is the cost? For what it is
and for what it costs I have found the Darex M5 to be a decent piece
of equipment.
Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA
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Posted by rangerssuck on July 2, 2009, 11:01 pm
Please log in for more thread options > The only one I've ever used is my Darex M5. I purchased the unit when
> I lived in Phoenix because a shop I worked for was drilling a lot of
> weldments and I got tired of using beat to "s" drills. After the shop
> owner saw me using it he agreed to pay me to sharpen the shops drills
> on the side. It didn't take long for me to pay for the Darex M5. I
> haven't had the need to use it since.
>
> In any case, the point of this post is that it seems to me that many
> people expect that you put a beat to "s" drill in a drill sharpener
> and it automatically gives you a perfect drill with split points and
> the web properly thinned. The Darex M5 certainly doesn't work like
> this. You have to adjust it and keep tweaking it in till it's
> right.... then you can do other drills which are the same size without
> adjustment.
>
> With the large drill attachment and I think one for small drills I
> believe I paid like $1,300 for the Darex M5. My M5 has diamond wheels
> and easily does cobalt drills.
>
> Once you have things dialed in on the Darex M5 you get a drill that
> easily holds size and that drills properly.
>
> Since I haven't used other drill sharpeners I wonder if with other
> drill sharpeners you can sharpen a drill without the need to tweak the
> drill in if you change drill sizes? =A0If something like this exists if
> it's as portable as the Darex M5 and what is the cost? For what it is
> and for what it costs I have found the Darex M5 to be a decent piece
> of equipment.
>
> Jon Banquer
> San Diego, CA
Drill Doctor 750. About a hundred bucks (I think). I had a 1/2" 24"
long drill that I really beat to crap drilling through cinder block (I
got stuck doing this unexpectedly, and didn't have my carbide drill
with me). This drill was totally ruined, and the drill doctor brought
it back just fine.
I'm not familiar with the M5, but with the DD, you just chuck up the
drill, set the depth and have at it. It's really pretty simple after
you do it once or twice.
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Posted by \"D\" on July 2, 2009, 11:16 pm
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> > The only one I've ever used is my Darex M5. I purchased the unit when
> > I lived in Phoenix because a shop I worked for was drilling a lot of
> > weldments and I got tired of using beat to "s" drills. After the shop
> > owner saw me using it he agreed to pay me to sharpen the shops drills
> > on the side. It didn't take long for me to pay for the Darex M5. I
> > haven't had the need to use it since.
>
> > In any case, the point of this post is that it seems to me that many
> > people expect that you put a beat to "s" drill in a drill sharpener
> > and it automatically gives you a perfect drill with split points and
> > the web properly thinned. The Darex M5 certainly doesn't work like
> > this. You have to adjust it and keep tweaking it in till it's
> > right.... then you can do other drills which are the same size without
> > adjustment.
>
> > With the large drill attachment and I think one for small drills I
> > believe I paid like $1,300 for the Darex M5. My M5 has diamond wheels
> > and easily does cobalt drills.
>
> > Once you have things dialed in on the Darex M5 you get a drill that
> > easily holds size and that drills properly.
>
> > Since I haven't used other drill sharpeners I wonder if with other
> > drill sharpeners you can sharpen a drill without the need to tweak the
> > drill in if you change drill sizes? =A0If something like this exists if
> > it's as portable as the Darex M5 and what is the cost? For what it is
> > and for what it costs I have found the Darex M5 to be a decent piece
> > of equipment.
>
> > Jon Banquer
> > San Diego, CA
>
Had a Darex SP2500 in a shop I worked in, it worked great, simple to
operate.
It did take a little tweaking the first time, (folks before me beat it
up some), but afterwards, ran like a champ, repeated well and was easy
to maintain.
I wouldn't mind finding another one in an auction.
"D"
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Posted by jon_banquer on July 3, 2009, 12:43 am
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> Had a Darex SP2500 in a shop I worked in, it worked great, simple to
> operate.
> It did take a little tweaking the first time, (folks before me beat it
> up some), but afterwards, ran like a champ, repeated well and was easy
> to maintain.
> I wouldn't mind finding another one in an auction.
>
> "D"
I tried a Darex SP2500 very briefly. The SP2500 replaced the Darex M5.
It's basically the same thing as the M5 and works the same way. The
biggest difference is that the ground drill particles stay inside the
SP2500. The SP2500 still requires the same amount of tweaking as the
M5 when you change drill sizes. I think the biggest advantage of the
SP2500 is a sales thing... it looks easier to operate even thought
it's not any easier than the M5 and it looks more advanced. The
reality is that they both use the same chucks and the same concept.
Personally I'd rather have the guts exposed rather than hidden.
Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA
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Posted by davenport on July 4, 2009, 7:59 pm
Please log in for more thread options > Had a Darex SP2500 in a shop I worked in, it worked great, simple to
> operate.
> It did take a little tweaking the first time, (folks before me beat it
> up some), but afterwards, ran like a champ, repeated well and was easy
> to maintain.
> I wouldn't mind finding another one in an auction.
>
> "D"
I tried a Darex SP2500 very briefly. The SP2500 replaced the Darex M5.
It's basically the same thing as the M5 and works the same way. The
biggest difference is that the ground drill particles stay inside the
SP2500. The SP2500 still requires the same amount of tweaking as the
M5 when you change drill sizes. I think the biggest advantage of the
SP2500 is a sales thing... it looks easier to operate even thought
it's not any easier than the M5 and it looks more advanced. The
reality is that they both use the same chucks and the same concept.
Personally I'd rather have the guts exposed rather than hidden.
Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA
We have a SP2500 at work also.. other than occasionally cleaning and
dressing the wheel, there is no tweaking needed between sizes or
uses...Admittly, I rarely, if ever use it on anything less than 1/4" nor
over 3?4" but within those sizes, it's done.
Your mileage may vary...keep your stick on the ice...offer void where
prohibited.
Mike
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> I lived in Phoenix because a shop I worked for was drilling a lot of
> weldments and I got tired of using beat to "s" drills. After the shop
> owner saw me using it he agreed to pay me to sharpen the shops drills
> on the side. It didn't take long for me to pay for the Darex M5. I
> haven't had the need to use it since.
>
> In any case, the point of this post is that it seems to me that many
> people expect that you put a beat to "s" drill in a drill sharpener
> and it automatically gives you a perfect drill with split points and
> the web properly thinned. The Darex M5 certainly doesn't work like
> this. You have to adjust it and keep tweaking it in till it's
> right.... then you can do other drills which are the same size without
> adjustment.
>
> With the large drill attachment and I think one for small drills I
> believe I paid like $1,300 for the Darex M5. My M5 has diamond wheels
> and easily does cobalt drills.
>
> Once you have things dialed in on the Darex M5 you get a drill that
> easily holds size and that drills properly.
>
> Since I haven't used other drill sharpeners I wonder if with other
> drill sharpeners you can sharpen a drill without the need to tweak the
> drill in if you change drill sizes? =A0If something like this exists if
> it's as portable as the Darex M5 and what is the cost? For what it is
> and for what it costs I have found the Darex M5 to be a decent piece
> of equipment.
>
> Jon Banquer
> San Diego, CA