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HB 1388 passed? Is this true? Gunner Asch 08-17-2009
Posted by Stuart Wheaton on August 19, 2009, 11:15 pm
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sittingduck wrote:
> Dan wrote:
>
>> Not to mention, why am I supposed to be afraid of some refugees, again?
>> Oh, that's right, I'm supposed to be afraid of EVERYTHING until
>> another nice, safe, and pleasant Republican administration can be
>> installed.
>>
>> Yeah. I'm not stupid, like the people you are relying upon for your
>> "revolution."
>
> The ignorance, and yes, STUPIDITY of most republicans and many democrats is
> startling.
> Guess how many "independents" are really repubs too ashamed to admit it?
>
>
>
> A new national survey from Public Policy Polling (D) illustrates the
> profound levels of ignorance that currently interfere with the debate over
> health care.
>
> One question asked: "Do you think the government should stay out of
> Medicare?" Keep in mind that this is a logical impossibility, as Medicare
> is a government program, which was signed into law in 1965 by President
> Lyndon Johnson, to provide guaranteed health care to the elderly.
>
> As it turns out, 39% of voters think government should stay out of
> Medicare, compared to 46% who disagree.
>
> Among Republicans, 62% say the government should stay out of Medicare,
> compared to only 24% of Democrats and 31% of independents who agree.
>

I'd love to know what the other options were for an answer. If there
was nothing like: "This question is stupid, did you actually ask me
this?" or "You are asking a non-sensical question" then I don't know
if "disagree" is really any better an answer. It reads like "Do you
ride the bus to work, or bring your lunch?"

Posted by sittingduck on August 19, 2009, 11:52 pm
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Stuart Wheaton wrote:

> I'd love to know what the other options were for an answer. If there
> was nothing like: "This question is stupid, did you actually ask me
> this?" or "You are asking a non-sensical question" then I don't know
> if "disagree" is really any better an answer. It reads like "Do you
> ride the bus to work, or bring your lunch?"

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_National_819513.pdf
There's the poll in its entirety.

--
Say what you will about the sweet miracle of unquestioning faith,
I consider a capacity for it terrifying and absolutely vile. — Kurt Vonnegut

Posted by John R. Carroll on August 20, 2009, 12:18 am
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Stuart Wheaton wrote:
> sittingduck wrote:
>> Dan wrote:
>>
>>> Not to mention, why am I supposed to be afraid of some refugees,
>>> again? Oh, that's right, I'm supposed to be afraid of EVERYTHING
>>> until another nice, safe, and pleasant Republican administration
>>> can be installed.
>>>
>>> Yeah. I'm not stupid, like the people you are relying upon for your
>>> "revolution."
>>
>> The ignorance, and yes, STUPIDITY of most republicans and many
>> democrats is startling.
>> Guess how many "independents" are really repubs too ashamed to admit
>> it?
>>
>>
>>
>> A new national survey from Public Policy Polling (D) illustrates the
>> profound levels of ignorance that currently interfere with the
>> debate over health care.
>>
>> One question asked: "Do you think the government should stay out of
>> Medicare?" Keep in mind that this is a logical impossibility, as
>> Medicare is a government program, which was signed into law in 1965
>> by President Lyndon Johnson, to provide guaranteed health care to
>> the elderly.
>>
>> As it turns out, 39% of voters think government should stay out of
>> Medicare, compared to 46% who disagree.
>>
>> Among Republicans, 62% say the government should stay out of
>> Medicare, compared to only 24% of Democrats and 31% of independents
>> who agree.
>>
>
> I'd love to know what the other options were for an answer.

Then go and look.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pppmain.asp?@spdT=B6B42829136845A69B19

--
John R. Carroll



Posted by rangerssuck on August 19, 2009, 11:36 pm
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> Stuart Wheaton wrote:
> > sittingduck wrote:
> >> Dan wrote:
>
> >>> Not to mention, why am I supposed to be afraid of some refugees,
> >>> =A0 again? Oh, that's right, I'm supposed to be afraid of EVERYTHING
> >>> until another =A0nice, safe, and pleasant Republican administration
> >>> can be installed.
>
> >>> Yeah. =A0I'm not stupid, like the people you are relying upon for you=
r
> >>> "revolution."
>
> >> The ignorance, and yes, STUPIDITY of most republicans and many
> >> democrats is startling.
> >> Guess how many "independents" are really repubs too ashamed to admit
> >> it?
>
> >> A new national survey from Public Policy Polling (D) illustrates the
> >> profound levels of ignorance that currently interfere with the
> >> debate over health care.
>
> >> One question asked: "Do you think the government should stay out of
> >> Medicare?" Keep in mind that this is a logical impossibility, as
> >> Medicare is a government program, which was signed into law in 1965
> >> by President Lyndon Johnson, to provide guaranteed health care to
> >> the elderly.
>
> >> As it turns out, 39% of voters think government should stay out of
> >> Medicare, compared to 46% who disagree.
>
> >> Among Republicans, 62% say the government should stay out of
> >> Medicare, compared to only 24% of Democrats and 31% of independents
> >> who agree.
>
> > I'd love to know what the other options were for an answer.
>
> Then go and look.http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pppmain.asp?@spdT=3DB=
6B42829136845A6...
>
> --
> John R. Carroll

Here's a link that goes directly to the applicable poll.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_National_819513.pdf

Posted by John R. Carroll on August 20, 2009, 12:51 am
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rangerssuck wrote:
>> Stuart Wheaton wrote:
>>> sittingduck wrote:
>>>> Dan wrote:
>>
>>>>> Not to mention, why am I supposed to be afraid of some refugees,
>>>>> again? Oh, that's right, I'm supposed to be afraid of EVERYTHING
>>>>> until another nice, safe, and pleasant Republican administration
>>>>> can be installed.
>>
>>>>> Yeah. I'm not stupid, like the people you are relying upon for
>>>>> your "revolution."
>>
>>>> The ignorance, and yes, STUPIDITY of most republicans and many
>>>> democrats is startling.
>>>> Guess how many "independents" are really repubs too ashamed to
>>>> admit it?
>>
>>>> A new national survey from Public Policy Polling (D) illustrates
>>>> the profound levels of ignorance that currently interfere with the
>>>> debate over health care.
>>
>>>> One question asked: "Do you think the government should stay out of
>>>> Medicare?" Keep in mind that this is a logical impossibility, as
>>>> Medicare is a government program, which was signed into law in 1965
>>>> by President Lyndon Johnson, to provide guaranteed health care to
>>>> the elderly.
>>
>>>> As it turns out, 39% of voters think government should stay out of
>>>> Medicare, compared to 46% who disagree.
>>
>>>> Among Republicans, 62% say the government should stay out of
>>>> Medicare, compared to only 24% of Democrats and 31% of independents
>>>> who agree.
>>
>>> I'd love to know what the other options were for an answer.
>>
>> Then go and
>>
look.http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pppmain.asp?@spdT=B6B42829136845A6 ..
.
>>
>> --
>> John R. Carroll
>
> Here's a link that goes directly to the applicable poll.
> http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_National_819513.pdf

Yes.
What I should have said was "Why don't you just go look - stupid", and left
it at that.


--
John R. Carroll



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