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Posted by Elkwangsian on May 17, 2006, 4:49 am
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I work for a subsidiary Co. of an U.S. entrerprise which purchasing
metal parts for certain equipment building now. Most of the material
been used can be easily found, such as SST304, Al 6061 T6, or free
maching brass. I did have known about a lot factories in China, and the
price is really cheap. But the quality is not stable, so we have to
spent too much time and management cost. Besides that, the raw material
sometimes is not as good as I had expected.
I have bought a little standard parts from Swagelok, MDC or other U.S
Co. The price is as higher as 3~4* of China parts.
I wonder, is there anyone who could provide parts with a relative
cheaper price and good quality performance ?
In fact, I had worked for a large scale SOE of China who provide all
kinds of precision parts to many world famouse Co. I believe, both
China and the U.S. has special advantages. In my opinion, the salary
cost differs a lot, esp. those factories need a lot of manual work.
I'd like to make more freinds in mechanical manufacturing, and exchange
my experiance with them. I expect for ur joining me into ur MSN
contacter list, and mine is: elkwangsian@hotmail.com
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Posted by adchin on May 17, 2006, 7:59 am
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>I work for a subsidiary Co. of an U.S. entrerprise which purchasing
> metal parts for certain equipment building now. Most of the material
> been used can be easily found, such as SST304, Al 6061 T6, or free
> maching brass. I did have known about a lot factories in China, and the
> price is really cheap. But the quality is not stable, so we have to
> spent too much time and management cost. Besides that, the raw material
> sometimes is not as good as I had expected.
>
> I have bought a little standard parts from Swagelok, MDC or other U.S
> Co. The price is as higher as 3~4* of China parts.
>
I think the answer to the 2nd paragraph, is reflective of the reason why the
prices in paragraph 1, are lower. You get what you pay. If you are using
Swagelok products, I would assume that you are dealing or providing, or want
to create the impression that you deliver high quality products. That
impression and confidence, costs more money, because of higher requirements,
better QA processes, etc...... There's a relative comparisson to this
situation and that's why Ferraris go faster, are more stable and more
desirable than a Toyota Supra, and costs way more.
> I wonder, is there anyone who could provide parts with a relative
> cheaper price and good quality performance ?
>
Taiwan and Malaysia come to mind. There are quite a few high output turning
companies, from all over the world, based in Malaysia. Their quality is
second to none, and the prices very competitive. The only problem is, they
won't talk to you unless you got a 100,000 part requirement, per drawing.
The factory that turns components for Omega and Swatch and all the other
brands in their group, is just 1 hour away from where I live. The company
that turns a large portion of disk drive parts that are used by Seagate, is
an hour's drive in the other direction. The Japanese company, that turns
pretty much the printer shafts for Canon, is in the same industrial estate,
that our office is in, and they are a 5 minute walk away.
There's an American company, 5 hours away, that turns a couple of million
parts a month, precision screws and fasteners.
Yeah, so if you want cheaper than US prices, and definitely better quality
than China ( for now anyway ) take a look at Malaysia and Thailand. Taiwan
is a bit more expensive, but they do make better quality components than
some of the Chinese stuff that I have seen.
> In fact, I had worked for a large scale SOE of China who provide all
> kinds of precision parts to many world famouse Co. I believe, both
> China and the U.S. has special advantages. In my opinion, the salary
> cost differs a lot, esp. those factories need a lot of manual work.
>
One day, it won't be a factor anymore, with the advancements made in the
field of robotics. I always tell some of my workers, one day, I'm going to
replace all of you with a robot that doesn't scratch his balls and then go
wash the nuts because their itchy now.
> I'd like to make more freinds in mechanical manufacturing, and exchange
> my experiance with them. I expect for ur joining me into ur MSN
> contacter list, and mine is: elkwangsian@hotmail.com
>
You'd be really surprised how informative and friendly this site is, if you
take the trouble to hang around here more often.
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> metal parts for certain equipment building now. Most of the material
> been used can be easily found, such as SST304, Al 6061 T6, or free
> maching brass. I did have known about a lot factories in China, and the
> price is really cheap. But the quality is not stable, so we have to
> spent too much time and management cost. Besides that, the raw material
> sometimes is not as good as I had expected.
>
> I have bought a little standard parts from Swagelok, MDC or other U.S
> Co. The price is as higher as 3~4* of China parts.
>