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Posted by BottleBob on November 17, 2009, 9:24 am
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To All:
It was recently mentioned that GibbsCam doesn't have an extensive Tool
Library. And that's a valid point, it doesn't. What it has is 20
basic Tool types that you edit to meet your needs.
Now GibbsCam has the ability to save processes, and it is also able to
save tools alone WITHOUT the processes.
I just wondered how much faster an extensive Tool Library might be,
hence this little test.
Here are 10 different Tools, how long does it take you to select (or
create) these tools in your CAM system and put them in your tooling
column or area?
4" Face Mill 5 Inserts
3/4" Inserted End Mill 3 Inserts .030 Tip Radius
.500 Carbide 4 Flute End Mill 1" Flute Length
1/2" 90 Degree Spot Drill
5/16" 135 Degree Drill
3/8-16 Tap
27/64" 135 Degree Drill
1/2-13 Tap
23/64 135 Degree Drill
.375 Reamer 6 Flute
It took me 2 minutes 50 seconds to create the 10 Tools above from
scratch in Gibbs.
It took me 2 minutes 2 seconds to choose those same 10 tools saved as
processes. And that was probably optimum as there were only a few
processes to choose from.
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BottleBob
http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob
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Posted by Cliff on November 17, 2009, 9:41 am
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>To All:
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> It was recently mentioned that GibbsCam doesn't have an extensive Tool
>Library. And that's a valid point, it doesn't. What it has is 20
>basic Tool types that you edit to meet your needs.
> Now GibbsCam has the ability to save processes, and it is also able to
>save tools alone WITHOUT the processes.
>
> I just wondered how much faster an extensive Tool Library might be,
>hence this little test.
> Here are 10 different Tools, how long does it take you to select (or
>create) these tools in your CAM system and put them in your tooling
>column or area?
>
>4" Face Mill 5 Inserts
>3/4" Inserted End Mill 3 Inserts .030 Tip Radius
>.500 Carbide 4 Flute End Mill 1" Flute Length
>1/2" 90 Degree Spot Drill
>5/16" 135 Degree Drill
>3/8-16 Tap
>27/64" 135 Degree Drill
>1/2-13 Tap
>23/64 135 Degree Drill
>.375 Reamer 6 Flute
>
>
> It took me 2 minutes 50 seconds to create the 10 Tools above from
>scratch in Gibbs.
> It took me 2 minutes 2 seconds to choose those same 10 tools saved as
>processes. And that was probably optimum as there were only a few
>processes to choose from.
BB,
I had an APT routine that read an ASCII tool library file
& got everything from tool crib number to setup instructions ...
One could search the file too ...
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Cliff
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Posted by Cliff on November 17, 2009, 9:42 am
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> Now GibbsCam has the ability to save processes, and it is also able to
>save tools alone WITHOUT the processes.
IOW poor jb was utterly clueless yet again.
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Cliff
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Posted by BottleBob on November 17, 2009, 12:22 pm
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Cliff wrote:
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>> Now GibbsCam has the ability to save processes, and it is also able to
>> save tools alone WITHOUT the processes.
>
> IOW poor jb was utterly clueless yet again.
Cliff:
I believe he said GibbsCam doesn't have a Tool Library. And that
would be a correct assessment. The "Save Tool As A Process" is a
workaround. I'm not sure it's even listed in their manuals.
Personally, I've never used the technique beyond knowing about it, and
for this little test. I don't believe it saves enough time to make it
worth the trouble. If you listed every drill & end mill size available
IMO, it could take more time to SEARCH - than it would to just enter
the date you needed in the first place. But that "opinion" could be
changed by accurate times given for this test by CAM systems that DO
have a complete Tool Library.
The purpose of my little test here is to attempt to gage if an
extensive tool library would be a significant time saving advantage, or
not.
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BottleBob
http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob
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Posted by Hang Dog on November 17, 2009, 2:40 pm
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BottleBob wrote:
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> The purpose of my little test here is to attempt to gage if an
> extensive tool library would be a significant time saving advantage, or
> not.
>
How much use is a '4" Face Mill 5 Inserts' if all you've got on hand is
a '3.75" Face Mill 5 Inserts' 'cos the 4" is being reground. You might
go through all the trouble creating a path with the 4" one only to find
that its not available.
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>
> It was recently mentioned that GibbsCam doesn't have an extensive Tool
>Library. And that's a valid point, it doesn't. What it has is 20
>basic Tool types that you edit to meet your needs.
> Now GibbsCam has the ability to save processes, and it is also able to
>save tools alone WITHOUT the processes.
>
> I just wondered how much faster an extensive Tool Library might be,
>hence this little test.
> Here are 10 different Tools, how long does it take you to select (or
>create) these tools in your CAM system and put them in your tooling
>column or area?
>
>4" Face Mill 5 Inserts
>3/4" Inserted End Mill 3 Inserts .030 Tip Radius
>.500 Carbide 4 Flute End Mill 1" Flute Length
>1/2" 90 Degree Spot Drill
>5/16" 135 Degree Drill
>3/8-16 Tap
>27/64" 135 Degree Drill
>1/2-13 Tap
>23/64 135 Degree Drill
>.375 Reamer 6 Flute
>
>
> It took me 2 minutes 50 seconds to create the 10 Tools above from
>scratch in Gibbs.
> It took me 2 minutes 2 seconds to choose those same 10 tools saved as
>processes. And that was probably optimum as there were only a few
>processes to choose from.