Tool Use Found in Octopuses

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Subject Author Date Tool Use Found in Octopuses Cliff 12-15-2009  Re: Tool Use Found in Octopuses Doug Miller 12-15-2009  Re: Tool Use Found in Octopuses TwoGuns 12-15-2009  Re: Tool Use Found in Octopuses HH&C 12-15-2009  Re: Tool Use Found in Octopuses raamman 12-17-2009  Re: Tool Use Found in Octopuses Paul Hovnanian ... 12-19-2009
Posted by Cliff on December 15, 2009, 5:22 am Please log in for more thread options http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/12/octopus-tools/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Index+3+%28Top+Stories+2%29%29 [ ... some octopuses appear to also use tools. Veined octopuses observed off the coast of Indonesia carried coconut shell halves under their bodies, and assembled them as necessary into shelters — something that wasn’t supposed to be possible in their corner of the animal kingdom. “To date, invertebrates have generally been regarded as lacking the cognitive abilities to engage in such sophisticated behaviors,” wrote Museum Victoria biologists who described the octopuses in a paper published Monday in Current Biology. “The discovery of this octopus tiptoeing across the sea ?oor with its prized coconut shells suggests that even marine invertebrates engage in behaviors that we once thought the preserve of humans.” ] Posted by Doug Miller on December 15, 2009, 9:58 am Please log in for more thread options >.... >some octopuses appear to also use tools. [...] >“To date, invertebrates have generally been regarded as lacking the cognitive >abilities to engage in such sophisticated behaviors,” wrote Museum Victoria >biologists who described the octopuses in a paper published Monday in Current >Biology. “The discovery of this octopus tiptoeing across the sea ?oor with its >prized coconut shells suggests that even marine invertebrates engage in >behaviors that we once thought the preserve of humans.” >] Tool use hasn't been "thought the preserve of humans" for a _long_ time, except by the massively ignorant. Observations of seagulls dropping mollusks onto rocks from a considerable height (to break open the shells) are at least several centuries old. Even tool-*making* isn't exclusive to humans; chimps do it too. Posted by TwoGuns on December 15, 2009, 6:33 pm Please log in for more thread options On Dec 15, 8:58=A0am, spamb...@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote: guessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote: > > > > >.... > >some octopuses appear to also use tools. > [...] > >=93To date, invertebrates have generally been regarded as lacking the co= gnitive > >abilities to engage in such sophisticated behaviors,=94 wrote Museum Vic= toria > >biologists who described the octopuses in a paper published Monday in Cu= rrent > >Biology. =93The discovery of this octopus tiptoeing across the sea ?oor = with its > >prized coconut shells suggests that even marine invertebrates engage in > >behaviors that we once thought the preserve of humans.=94 > >] > > Tool use hasn't been "thought the preserve of humans" for a _long_ time, > except by the massively ignorant. Observations of seagulls dropping mollu= sks > onto rocks from a considerable height (to break open the shells) are at l= east > several centuries old. Even tool-*making* isn't exclusive to humans; chim= ps do > it too. On a camping trip many years ago I left a jar of peanut butter on a picnic table next to the tent. Next morning the cap was off of the Peanut jar and something had scooped an ounce or two out of the jar. I suspected raccoons. I put the lid back on and kept and eye on the jar. Next morning I heard the lid drop off and hit the table. I peeked through the tent flap and saw a Red Winged Blackbird eating out of the jar. He did this every morning while we were there. DL Posted by HH&C on December 15, 2009, 6:38 pm Please log in for more thread options wrote: > http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/12/octopus-tools/?utm_source=3Df..= . > [ > ... > some octopuses appear to also use tools. > > Veined octopuses observed off the coast of Indonesia carried coconut shel= l > halves under their bodies, and assembled them as necessary into shelters = =97 > something that wasn=92t supposed to be possible in their corner of the an= imal > kingdom. > > =93To date, invertebrates have generally been regarded as lacking the cog= nitive > abilities to engage in such sophisticated behaviors,=94 wrote Museum Vict= oria > biologists who described the octopuses in a paper published Monday in Cur= rent > Biology. =93The discovery of this octopus tiptoeing across the sea ?oor w= ith its > prized coconut shells suggests that even marine invertebrates engage in > behaviors that we once thought the preserve of humans.=94 > ] That's hugely ignorant. I guess mud daubers are on the evolutionary track to human-hood. Posted by raamman on December 17, 2009, 11:09 am Please log in for more thread options wrote: > http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/12/octopus-tools/?utm_source=3Df..= . > [ > ... > some octopuses appear to also use tools. > > Veined octopuses observed off the coast of Indonesia carried coconut shel= l > halves under their bodies, and assembled them as necessary into shelters = =97 > something that wasn=92t supposed to be possible in their corner of the an= imal > kingdom. > > =93To date, invertebrates have generally been regarded as lacking the cog= nitive > abilities to engage in such sophisticated behaviors,=94 wrote Museum Vict= oria > biologists who described the octopuses in a paper published Monday in Cur= rent > Biology. =93The discovery of this octopus tiptoeing across the sea ?oor w= ith its > prized coconut shells suggests that even marine invertebrates engage in > behaviors that we once thought the preserve of humans.=94 > ] teach him how to use a cnc mill and we're all set Similar Threads Posted I found a bug! 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