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7018 rods question stryped 04-21-2008
Posted by stryped on April 21, 2008, 11:31 am
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I was reading on the Miller website an explanation of rods. It said
that 7018 rods are "not recommended for use in small ac arc welders".
Does this mean I should not use it with my Lincoln ac 225 amp welder?
What is the ideal rod for the machine I have?

Posted by Ned Simmons on April 21, 2008, 11:47 am
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On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 08:31:10 -0700 (PDT), stryped

>I was reading on the Miller website an explanation of rods. It said
>that 7018 rods are "not recommended for use in small ac arc welders".
>Does this mean I should not use it with my Lincoln ac 225 amp welder?
>What is the ideal rod for the machine I have?

For general purpose use on mild steel, 1/8" 6011

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Ned Simmons

Posted by Karl Townsend on April 21, 2008, 5:57 pm
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>>For general purpose use on mild steel, 1/8" 6011
>
> Id say 1/8" 6013
>
> Unless you are really good at filling holes.....shrug
>

You're both right. 6011 penetrates better, use it for steel over say 3/16
thick. Also burns through paint, crud, and rust. 6013 won't burn a hole as
easily, use it on thin material.

one more, 7014. its great to fill up that hole you burned through.

Karl





Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on April 21, 2008, 12:16 pm
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42f7-a9e6-6ee5a2f44472@w8g2000prd.googlegroups.com:

> I was reading on the Miller website an explanation of rods. It said
> that 7018 rods are "not recommended for use in small ac arc welders".
> Does this mean I should not use it with my Lincoln ac 225 amp welder?
> What is the ideal rod for the machine I have?

I've done it successfully, even on large, multi-pass fillets. Low-
hydrogen rods are "persnickety" about maintaining a stable arc. If your
welder isn't a really stiff current supply that won't vary much with load
and input voltage variations, it's hard to keep the arc steady.

On the other hand, my forever-old Craftsman 225 variable worked OK on
them, after a few bad beads and some current adjustments.

I'd rather have DC and RF stabilization for Low-H rods, but I don't do
enough welding to justify the expense.

The "ideal" rod for any slap-up welding on mild steel is the venerable
E6011. That rod will run a good bead all by itself, just leaning against
the work.

LLoyd

Posted by Bob Engelhardt on April 21, 2008, 12:49 pm
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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
...
> The "ideal" rod for any slap-up welding on mild steel is the venerable
> E6011. That rod will run a good bead all by itself, just leaning against
> the work.

In the other reply, Ned also recommended 6011, and that is the most
common reply to a "What all-round rod is good?" question. But I gotta
say that I like 6013 much better. My welding is little & far between,
so I get out of practice & maybe that's why I find the 6013 better. For
me, it's much easier to strike and run than 6011. It's also said that
6011 is better for rusty steel, but I haven't had a problem with 6013 &
rust.

I've never even tried 7018 because of the need to keep it dry. It's
advantage couldn't be worth the extra fussin'. For me.

Not at all an expert, just a guy with an opinion,
Bob

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