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Advice needed about choice of adhesive gautham.vanya 05-13-2008
Posted by on May 13, 2008, 11:21 pm
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While this is not strictly metal related, I'm sure I will get some
good advice here.

I need to stick tiny (about 1/8th inch dia) rare earth magnets to
plastic film (think laminated paper) and I am looking for a glue to do
the job. The result needs to be fairly difficult to break.Tried CA,
but I can break the bond with some effort. Same with Araldite
(epoxy).

Any suggestions? Any tips to get it to work better?

TIA - I'm back to lurking now
Gautham

Posted by Ed Huntress on May 13, 2008, 11:32 pm
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> While this is not strictly metal related, I'm sure I will get some
> good advice here.
>
> I need to stick tiny (about 1/8th inch dia) rare earth magnets to
> plastic film (think laminated paper) and I am looking for a glue to do
> the job. The result needs to be fairly difficult to break.Tried CA,
> but I can break the bond with some effort. Same with Araldite
> (epoxy).
>
> Any suggestions? Any tips to get it to work better?
>
> TIA - I'm back to lurking now
> Gautham

It depends entirely on what kind of plastic film you're dealing with. In
some cases, there is no adhesive that will produce more than a superficial
bond.

You really have to know what the plastic is. There's no getting around it.

--
Ed Huntress



Posted by Terry Keeley on May 13, 2008, 11:56 pm
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Just used some of this stuff to glue a magnet to some "King Board" in my
trailer, double sided acrylic body trim tape didn't stick at all but this
seems to be holding so far:

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCX69&P=SM

Think it's the same family of adhesives as "shoo goo". It's a little
flexible but should do the job...



>
>> While this is not strictly metal related, I'm sure I will get some
>> good advice here.
>>
>> I need to stick tiny (about 1/8th inch dia) rare earth magnets to
>> plastic film (think laminated paper) and I am looking for a glue to do
>> the job. The result needs to be fairly difficult to break.Tried CA,
>> but I can break the bond with some effort. Same with Araldite
>> (epoxy).
>>
>> Any suggestions? Any tips to get it to work better?
>>
>> TIA - I'm back to lurking now
>> Gautham
>
> It depends entirely on what kind of plastic film you're dealing with. In
> some cases, there is no adhesive that will produce more than a superficial
> bond.
>
> You really have to know what the plastic is. There's no getting around it.
>
> --
> Ed Huntress
>



Posted by Tim Wescott on May 14, 2008, 11:41 am
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On Tue, 13 May 2008 23:32:24 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote:

>> While this is not strictly metal related, I'm sure I will get some good
>> advice here.
>>
>> I need to stick tiny (about 1/8th inch dia) rare earth magnets to
>> plastic film (think laminated paper) and I am looking for a glue to do
>> the job. The result needs to be fairly difficult to break.Tried CA,
>> but I can break the bond with some effort. Same with Araldite (epoxy).
>>
>> Any suggestions? Any tips to get it to work better?
>>
>> TIA - I'm back to lurking now
>> Gautham
>
> It depends entirely on what kind of plastic film you're dealing with. In
> some cases, there is no adhesive that will produce more than a
> superficial bond.
>
> You really have to know what the plastic is. There's no getting around
> it.

And the magnet. The rare-earth alloys are highly prone to rust, and many
of the magnets are chrome plated. In addition to the difficulty of
sticking to the plastic, you may need a glue that can handle the chrome
plating.

OP: Are these magnets chromed? Are you having trouble with the bond to
the magnet, or the bond to the plastic/paper?

--
Tim Wescott
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http://www.wescottdesign.com

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Posted by Brian Lawson on May 14, 2008, 6:46 pm
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wrote:


>>> While this is not strictly metal related, I'm sure I will get some good
>>> advice here.
>>>
>>> I need to stick tiny (about 1/8th inch dia) rare earth magnets to
>>> plastic film (think laminated paper) and I am looking for a glue to do
>>> the job. The result needs to be fairly difficult to break.Tried CA,
>>> but I can break the bond with some effort. Same with Araldite (epoxy).
>>>
>>> Any suggestions? Any tips to get it to work better?
>>>
>>> TIA - I'm back to lurking now
>>> Gautham
>>
How about placing a "twin" magnet on each "side" of the plastic, with
say some glue under each. That should almost double the strain
required to remove one.

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