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Electricital question SteveB 04-26-2008
Posted by Jim Wilkins on April 26, 2008, 4:30 pm
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> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:38:17 -0800, "SteveB"
>
> >I want to run a stun gun arc from the box about 25 feet. =A0What would be=
the
> >best wire to use? =A0I want to use a two wire combo that is within one sh=
eath,
> >like a light cord. =A0For that high voltage, should I use something as co=
mmon
> >as regular wire, or should I use solid copper wire.
>
> >Steve
>
> Coax?

Figure on 30pF of capacitance per foot for coax. It will seriously
reduce AC voltage although with DC you'll get even more spark. i know,
having been bitten by 3' of disconnected coax that had been charged to
40KV.
You could try TV twin-lead.

Posted by William Noble on April 26, 2008, 10:05 pm
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if you run two pieces of coax - maybe RG 58? you will get less capacitive
loss but still get the good insulation - alternatively buy a roll of solid
core ignition wire.


> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:38:17 -0800, "SteveB"
>
> >I want to run a stun gun arc from the box about 25 feet. What would be
> >the
> >best wire to use? I want to use a two wire combo that is within one
> >sheath,
> >like a light cord. For that high voltage, should I use something as
> >common
> >as regular wire, or should I use solid copper wire.
>
> >Steve
>
> Coax?

Figure on 30pF of capacitance per foot for coax. It will seriously
reduce AC voltage although with DC you'll get even more spark. i know,
having been bitten by 3' of disconnected coax that had been charged to
40KV.
You could try TV twin-lead.


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Posted by Don Foreman on April 27, 2008, 1:31 am
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On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 19:05:21 -0700, "William Noble"

>if you run two pieces of coax - maybe RG 58? you will get less capacitive
>loss but still get the good insulation - alternatively buy a roll of solid
>core ignition wire.
>
>
>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:38:17 -0800, "SteveB"
>>
>> >I want to run a stun gun arc from the box about 25 feet. What would be
>> >the
>> >best wire to use? I want to use a two wire combo that is within one
>> >sheath,
>> >like a light cord. For that high voltage, should I use something as
>> >common
>> >as regular wire, or should I use solid copper wire.
>>
>> >Steve
>>
>> Coax?
>
>Figure on 30pF of capacitance per foot for coax. It will seriously
>reduce AC voltage although with DC you'll get even more spark.

I'm quite sure that stun guns deliver AC, not DC. Frequency would be
in the tens of KHz, nowhere near high enough for skin effect to
operate like it does with TIG HF.

They very probably operate at or quite near the self-resonant
frequency of the secondary, so loading the sec with any significant
capacitance will reduce frequency and peak voltage significantly.

Posted by Wes on April 26, 2008, 6:40 pm
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>Coax?


I have a feeling coax is the worst wire to use. IIRC, coax tends to dampen
lightning strikes if my ARRL reading is remembered correctly.

Wes

Posted by SteveB on April 26, 2008, 9:59 pm
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> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:38:17 -0800, "SteveB"
>
>>I want to run a stun gun arc from the box about 25 feet. What would be
>>the
>>best wire to use? I want to use a two wire combo that is within one
>>sheath,
>>like a light cord. For that high voltage, should I use something as
>>common
>>as regular wire, or should I use solid copper wire.
>>
>>I got my gopher blaster working, and having the button anywhere close to
>>the
>>burrow opening is not a good thing. I had two blasts that were louder
>>than
>>a .357 Magnum.
>>
>>Steve
>>
>
> Coax?

Thanks. I'd never thought of that, and that would give a stiff durable
conductor that would be easy to make work..

Steve



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