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Electricital question SteveB 04-26-2008
Posted by Don Foreman on April 26, 2008, 4:07 pm
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On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:47:08 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"

>
>SteveB wrote:
>>
>> I want to run a stun gun arc from the box about 25 feet. What would be the
>> best wire to use? I want to use a two wire combo that is within one sheath,
>> like a light cord. For that high voltage, should I use something as common
>> as regular wire, or should I use solid copper wire.
>>
>> I got my gopher blaster working, and having the button anywhere close to the
>> burrow opening is not a good thing. I had two blasts that were louder than
>> a .357 Magnum.
>>
>> Steve
>
>
> How about a remote control? By a replacement garage door opener
>transmitter and receiver, then you can walk away before triggering it.
>Another way would be to add a timer to give you 30 seconds (or more) to
>walk away.

I would also recommend a radio, infrared or low-voltage wire remote
control. Keep the H.V. source close to the spark gap. The
capacitance of 25 feet of coax could soak up a lot of your spark.

Low voltage wire (e.g. speaker wire or lampcord) is probably
simplest. A kid's R/C toy could provide battery-powered radios for
under $10 but sparks might drive it nuts.
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Posted by Joseph Gwinn on April 26, 2008, 4:50 pm
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> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:47:08 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>
> >
> >SteveB wrote:
> >>
> >> I want to run a stun gun arc from the box about 25 feet. What would be
> >> the
> >> best wire to use? I want to use a two wire combo that is within one
> >> sheath,
> >> like a light cord. For that high voltage, should I use something as
> >> common
> >> as regular wire, or should I use solid copper wire.
> >>
> >> I got my gopher blaster working, and having the button anywhere close to
> >> the
> >> burrow opening is not a good thing. I had two blasts that were louder
> >> than
> >> a .357 Magnum.
> >>
> >> Steve
> >
> >
> > How about a remote control? By a replacement garage door opener
> >transmitter and receiver, then you can walk away before triggering it.
> >Another way would be to add a timer to give you 30 seconds (or more) to
> >walk away.

I would be leery of any kind of radio link, as it could be triggered by
accident at a really awkward time.


> I would also recommend a radio, infrared or low-voltage wire remote
> control. Keep the H.V. source close to the spark gap. The
> capacitance of 25 feet of coax could soak up a lot of your spark.
>
> Low voltage wire (e.g. speaker wire or lampcord) is probably
> simplest. A kid's R/C toy could provide battery-powered radios for
> under $10 but sparks might drive it nuts.
> http://www.lifecozy.com/trc427003.html

How about a long low-voltage wire controlling a relay, which relay
triggers the spark?

Joe Gwinn

Posted by Bruce L. Bergman on April 26, 2008, 6:52 pm
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On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:38:17 -0800, "SteveB"

>I want to run a stun gun arc from the box about 25 feet. What would be the
>best wire to use? I want to use a two wire combo that is within one sheath,
>like a light cord. For that high voltage, should I use something as common
>as regular wire, or should I use solid copper wire.
>
>I got my gopher blaster working, and having the button anywhere close to the
>burrow opening is not a good thing. I had two blasts that were louder than
>a .357 Magnum.

Put the stun gun (step-up inverter) right near the gopher hole
opening - then you can run the 9V DC to the stun gun with common
12-AWG landscape lighting cable - heavy duty zip cord.

The HV side is hard to run long distances. They do make single
conductor 14 and 16 AWG solid wire with 5KV and 10KV insulation for
use with neon signs, but it isn't cheap.

Some auto parts stores still have bulk solid core (usually stranded)
sparkplug wire, but good parts stores are an endangered species.
Resistor wire is worthless for your purposes, it has a graphite string
center conductor.

--<< Bruce >>--


Posted by SteveB on April 26, 2008, 10:03 pm
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> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:38:17 -0800, "SteveB"
>
>>I want to run a stun gun arc from the box about 25 feet. What would be
>>the
>>best wire to use? I want to use a two wire combo that is within one
>>sheath,
>>like a light cord. For that high voltage, should I use something as
>>common
>>as regular wire, or should I use solid copper wire.
>>
>>I got my gopher blaster working, and having the button anywhere close to
>>the
>>burrow opening is not a good thing. I had two blasts that were louder
>>than
>>a .357 Magnum.
>
> Put the stun gun (step-up inverter) right near the gopher hole
> opening - then you can run the 9V DC to the stun gun with common
> 12-AWG landscape lighting cable - heavy duty zip cord.
>
> The HV side is hard to run long distances. They do make single
> conductor 14 and 16 AWG solid wire with 5KV and 10KV insulation for
> use with neon signs, but it isn't cheap.
>
> Some auto parts stores still have bulk solid core (usually stranded)
> sparkplug wire, but good parts stores are an endangered species.
> Resistor wire is worthless for your purposes, it has a graphite string
> center conductor.
>
> --<< Bruce >>--

For flexibility purposes, I want to run a two conductor through a larger
diameter hose that will be taking the gas down the hole. Hence, there will
have to be two wires running down there. The coax and speaker wire sound
plausible, as I have both.

One thing I am learning about this "thing" is that it deserves respect. It
can hurt ya.

Steve



Posted by Don Foreman on April 27, 2008, 1:43 am
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On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:03:10 -0800, "SteveB"

>
>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 09:38:17 -0800, "SteveB"
>>
>>>I want to run a stun gun arc from the box about 25 feet. What would be
>>>the
>>>best wire to use? I want to use a two wire combo that is within one
>>>sheath,
>>>like a light cord. For that high voltage, should I use something as
>>>common
>>>as regular wire, or should I use solid copper wire.
>>>
>>>I got my gopher blaster working, and having the button anywhere close to
>>>the
>>>burrow opening is not a good thing. I had two blasts that were louder
>>>than
>>>a .357 Magnum.
>>
>> Put the stun gun (step-up inverter) right near the gopher hole
>> opening - then you can run the 9V DC to the stun gun with common
>> 12-AWG landscape lighting cable - heavy duty zip cord.
>>
>> The HV side is hard to run long distances. They do make single
>> conductor 14 and 16 AWG solid wire with 5KV and 10KV insulation for
>> use with neon signs, but it isn't cheap.
>>
>> Some auto parts stores still have bulk solid core (usually stranded)
>> sparkplug wire, but good parts stores are an endangered species.
>> Resistor wire is worthless for your purposes, it has a graphite string
>> center conductor.
>>
>> --<< Bruce >>--
>
>For flexibility purposes, I want to run a two conductor through a larger
>diameter hose that will be taking the gas down the hole. Hence, there will
>have to be two wires running down there. The coax and speaker wire sound
>plausible, as I have both.
>
>One thing I am learning about this "thing" is that it deserves respect. It
>can hurt ya.
>
>Steve

There is no way I would run stungun voltage inside the gas hose short
of enclosing it in grounded metal tubing. Unintended sparking inside
the gas line could get too exciting for my timid self, though I don't
mind the blast from a .357 magnum a bit as long as it's on my side.
YMMV.

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