Forming wire mesh cloth - how to compress a cylindrical shape?

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Forming wire mesh cloth - how to compress a cylindrical shape? Royston Vasey 02-08-2010
Posted by Royston Vasey on February 9, 2010, 7:54 am
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> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 11:45:46 +0800, the infamous "Royston Vasey"
>
>>
>>> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:07:21 +0800, the infamous "Royston Vasey"
>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'm forming some wire mesh cloth - that part is going ok.
>>>>
>>>>The finished part needs to be compressed to fit into a pvc part -
>>>>working
>>>>it
>>>>in by hand results in scratching and marking of the pvc. I'm looking for
>>>>some ideas on how to compress the mesh part so it slips cleanly into the
>>>>pvc
>>>>part. There's a few pics in the dropbox:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/wire_screen.pdf
>>>
>>> Think "tampons", Royston. <vbg> How about a teflon sleeve with an OD
>>> the size of the ID of the PVC to help guide the screen in?
>>>
>>> Or a pair of spr
>>
>>ing steel guides on sticks, curved tongs if you will.
>>>
>>> Questions: Do you later "inflate" the cup back to full inside
>>> diameter? What do you use to secure it to the PVC? And, last but not
>>> least, whatever are these used for?
>>>
>>> Another thought: If you were to compress the cup closer to final
>>> diameter, it might be easier to work with. It appears to have lots of
>>> gaps between the folds and OD.
>>
>>Everytime I think tampons I'm reminded of UK's Prince Charles bugged phone
>>call where he told I think it was Camilla Gorilla his bit on the side at
>>the
>>time that he "wished he was her tampon" - a nasty thought! :|
>
> Heh heh heh.
>
>
>>The tongs is a good idea - I just made something similar using some
>>crimpers:
>>
>>
>>http://www.metalworking.com/dropbox/wire_screen_tool.pdf
>
> Ah, good!
>
>
>>Once in place the screen springs back quite a bit, I still need some
>>urethane - maybe sika 191, 293 ?? The black marine stuff anyway, that
>>works
>>really well on most things. The screen is a shield over a humidity
>>sensor -
>>to stop fingers and look nice more than anything else. I don't think there
>>is a way to eliminate the folds and extra mesh / cloth. The cloth doesn't
>>want to stretch enough so a degree of folding results.
>
> Have you tried a press in the shape of those tongs? Place screen cup
> over mandrel and compress vigorously with tons of force to 'set' the
> folds tighter.
>


I don't have much in the way of machinery so I've made do with what I have.
The wire is 316 stainless and is quite "springy". An arbor press is on my
wish list (along with a mill, guillotine, panbrake..........)


> Alternatively, have you thought of just using a disc of screen and a
> slightly longer piece of PVC, dadoing in the flat screen piece? You
> could even use a heftier screen gauge to keep fingers from damaging
> it.
>

I can't quite visualise what you mean. I've tried a few different
arrangements, the one I have come up with seems to be the best in terms of
being simple to manufacture with the tools I have to hand.


> --
> We don't receive wisdom; we must discover it for ourselves
> after a journey that no one can take for us or spare us.
> -- Marcel Proust



Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on February 9, 2010, 9:32 am
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So why not use something ready-made, like this?

http://www.mcmaster.com/#suction-strainers/=5qqxb3

Part # 44265K24

Poly large-particle suction screen.

LLoyd

Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on February 9, 2010, 9:34 am
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> fired this volley in

>
> So why not use something ready-made, like this?
>
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#suction-strainers/=5qqxb3
>
> Part # 44265K24
>
> Poly large-particle suction screen.
>
> LLoyd
>

Or, more like what you're making -- part # 98755K15

LLoyd

Posted by Royston Vasey on February 9, 2010, 9:17 pm
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
> "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> fired this volley in
>
>>
>> So why not use something ready-made, like this?
>>
>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#suction-strainers/=5qqxb3
>>
>> Part # 44265K24
>>
>> Poly large-particle suction screen.
>>
>> LLoyd
>>
>
> Or, more like what you're making -- part # 98755K15
>
> LLoyd

Thanks Lloyd, I looked & looked and could not find anything off the shelf
that would work. It's hard to get the right mix of size / appearance & cost.
Now I've got it sorted the they should cost me ~ $0.10 each.



Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on February 10, 2010, 7:10 am
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>
> "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
>> "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> fired this
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>>>
>>> So why not use something ready-made, like this?
>>>
>>> http://www.mcmaster.com/#suction-strainers/=5qqxb3
>>>
>>> Part # 44265K24
>>>
>>> Poly large-particle suction screen.
>>>
>>> LLoyd
>>>
>>
>> Or, more like what you're making -- part # 98755K15
>>
>> LLoyd
>
> Thanks Lloyd, I looked & looked and could not find anything off the
> shelf that would work. It's hard to get the right mix of size /
> appearance & cost. Now I've got it sorted the they should cost me ~
> $0.10 each.
>
>
>

I mailed you off-list with a suggestion, and the mail has bounced. Did
you see the post about making an insertion sleeve out of several
"leaves" of shim stock? After insertion, you draw out the leaves one-by-
one, so the diameter of the "crown" doesn't matter.

LLoyd

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