Impact wrench torque

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Impact wrench torque mark 02-23-2008
Posted by Don Young on February 24, 2008, 10:37 pm
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<clare at snyder.on.ca> wrote in message
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:35:30 +0000, Mark Rand
>
>>On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:00:11 -0500, clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:
>>
>>>I never reduced the pressure on my impacts from the 150 shop line
>>>pressure. Mine DID have a "power" adjustment that allowed me to dial
>>>the wrench back for assembling, and dial it up for dissassembling.
>>>
>>
>> </RHETORICAL>
>>How do you get accurate torque when assembling with an impact wrench?
>>
>>The wheel nuts on my car require 81lb-ft of torque (put the wheels on
>>today
>>after a brake job) they assemble and disassemble easily by hand. A shop
>>uses
>>an impact wrench on them and they don't until they've undone them and
>>re-done
>>them with a torque wrench! The crankshaft pulley needs 200lb-ft. Also a
>>manual
>>job, just use a longer handle.
>>
>>
>>I can understand the use of an impact wrench for undoing truck wheel nuts,
>>but
>>with anything less than 400 lb-ft I would question the use of power tools
>>for
>>assembly. Much above that and I would be using a crane and balance. For
>>large
>>bolts, I would be expecting to use either hydraulic bolts or heated bolts
>>and
>>a micrometer, per the drawings.
>> </RHETORICAL>
>>
>>
>>Am I being excessively picky?
>>
>>
>>Mark Rand
>>RTFM
> Assembly with an impact is strictly a "speed" thing.
> With the proper "torque stick" and the proper technique, it is
> possible to "torque" a wheel nut accurately with an impact
> wrench(within less than 10%)
> I have, for decades, made a practice of putting the wheels on with the
> impact wrench, then going around and checking the torque on ALL the
> studs with the torque wrench before letting the car out of the shop.
>
> I generally check my own vehicles again after 50-100 miles of driving.
>
> On truck wheel nuts a "geared" torque wrench is often used (planetary
> drive multiplier)
>
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I have seen shops use a torque wrench after an impact wrench but they only
checked that the torque wrench would click in the tightening direction. In
other words, they did not check that the lugs might already be too tight
after using the impact wrench.

Effective use of a torque wrench in loosening tight fittings requires that
the whole assembly be very rigid. It takes only a short extension or a thin
socket to reduce the power significantly.

Don Young



Posted by Trevor Jones on February 25, 2008, 7:49 am
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Don Young wrote:

>
> I have seen shops use a torque wrench after an impact wrench but they only
> checked that the torque wrench would click in the tightening direction. In
> other words, they did not check that the lugs might already be too tight
> after using the impact wrench.
>
> Effective use of a torque wrench in loosening tight fittings requires that
> the whole assembly be very rigid. It takes only a short extension or a thin
> socket to reduce the power significantly.
>
> Don Young
>
>
There are "calibrated" extensions, too, that limit the torque by being
of different diameters. Harbour freight probably sells them in the US,
but I know that Princess Auto in Canada does.

Cheers
Trevor Jones


Posted by Joseph Gwinn on February 23, 2008, 11:46 am
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> I bought what is apparently the most powerful 1/2" drive impact wrench
> available IR 2135 with 1000 ftlb of torque and am still finding it
> weak.

What torque is your arm rated for? It seems unlikely that any human can
put a 1000# push on a handheld tool that might be 12" in diameter at
most.

Joe Gwinn


> The other day it would not remove the bolts that hold on my
> front brake caliper bracket and sometimes it wll not remove lugnuts. I
> am using it at 125psi with 50' of 3/8" hose and 1/4" M (milton) quick
> connects). Would going to 3/8" qc fittings help at all? I notived a
> local tire shop has the air pressure at 150 psi. Is this what is
> needed? How come air tools say never to go above 90 psi?

Posted by F. George McDuffee on February 23, 2008, 12:03 pm
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On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:46:26 -0500, Joseph Gwinn

>What torque is your arm rated for? It seems unlikely that any human can
>put a 1000# push on a handheld tool that might be 12" in diameter at
>most.
==============
There is a reason these are called *IMPACT* guns



Posted by Larry Jaques on February 23, 2008, 12:52 pm
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On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:03:19 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm, F.

>On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 11:46:26 -0500, Joseph Gwinn
>
>>What torque is your arm rated for? It seems unlikely that any human can
>>put a 1000# push on a handheld tool that might be 12" in diameter at
>>most.
>==============
>There is a reason these are called *IMPACT* guns

Yabbut, methinks the 1,000# figure is calculated using Searz Foot
Pounds. I doubt a 1/2" gun would do better than 300, with a 3/4 or 1"
drive capable of doing up to 1k.

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