Is this trailer properly balanced?

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Is this trailer properly balanced? stryped 04-19-2008
Posted by johnnytorch on April 20, 2008, 8:02 am
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>Can you have too much tongue weight?

Too much tongue weight can overload the hitch on the towing vehicle as well
as lighten the front wheels making steering harder. You loose steering
traction with less friction. An extreme example would be the front wheels
coming off the ground.



Posted by stryped on April 19, 2008, 7:22 pm
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> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 13:01:29 -0700 (PDT), stryped
>
> >Been researching trailers and found this:
> >http://www.allstatetrailers.com/images/products/specsheet/30sa.pdf
>
> >Looking at the 14 foot long one, does it seem like the axle is not
> >placed right. I have been reading about how the ideal axle is placed
> >in a 60/40 configuration. This seems to have the back axle too far
> >forward? I like the trailer though.
>
> Summing moments about the axle and assuming uniform load, =A0tongue
> weight is about 4.8% of load. =A0That's a bit light, but workable.
> 10% to 15% is usually =A0better. =A0 Just moving the load c.g. =A0a bit
> forward would increase tongue weight.
>
>
>
> >Also, how heavy does a single axle trailer need to be before you
> >should put brakes on it?
>
> Depends on applicable state law. =A0In MN it's 1500 lb. =A0A load
> approaching 1500 lb without brakes =A0significantly increases the
> stopping distance of a 1/2 ton pickup tow vehicle, =A0and it could =A0be
> dicey to drive in mountainous terrain. =A0

When is it ok to use a straight tongue with side supports and when is
it best to use an A frame with A frame coupler?

Posted by Bruce L. Bergman on April 20, 2008, 2:17 am
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On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:22:42 -0700 (PDT), stryped

>When is it ok to use a straight tongue with side supports and when is
>it best to use an A frame with A frame coupler?

The only real difference is with a straight tongue you can get the
angle a bit tighter when backing into a really bad spot. But that
extra few degrees of turn usually is not useful.

A tongues are stronger. Triangle always trumps a single beam, all
other factors being equal. And an A with a stem is two triangles back
to back.

Welcome to "there are always trade-offs made in the design phase".

--<< Bruce >>--


Posted by johnnytorch on April 20, 2008, 8:06 am
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>When is it ok to use a straight tongue with side supports and when is
>it best to use an A frame with A frame coupler?

A-frame tongue. All day long. I believe the angle is 50deg. Measure the
angle from a coupler off the shelf before you design.



Posted by Bob Engelhardt on April 20, 2008, 9:45 am
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johnnytorch wrote:
>
>> When is it ok to use a straight tongue with side supports and when is
>> it best to use an A frame with A frame coupler?
>
> A-frame tongue. All day long. I believe the angle is 50deg. Measure the
> angle from a coupler off the shelf before you design.

For the back-yard weldor the A-frame has the disadvantage of
concentrating the load on the welds. The straight tongue, extended,
relies more on the strength of the tongue itself.

The straight tongue

+-----------+
| |
| -----+---------
| |
+-----------+

The A-frame:

+-----------+`.
| | `-.
| | ,"
| | ,-"
+-----------+,"

A hybrid would be my preference:

+----------.=---------+
| "--._ |
| ""-.|
| |""-.__
| | "-.._
| | __,-"
| |__,-"
| __,-"
| __,-" |
+-----------"---------+


Bob

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