Kurt vise swivel attachment question

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Kurt vise swivel attachment question Tom Gardner 03-21-2008
Posted by Tom Gardner on March 22, 2008, 12:11 am
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>>>>I picked-up a cheapie 4" swivel vise at the local store for the immediate
>>>>job and actually, it's pretty nice...
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>
>>> Where did you get it Tom, at Production Tool or JTS Machinery? I have the 4"
>>> vise from JTS and like it a lot also.
>
>
>>Latch Supply on St.Clair.
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>
> Neat, a place I wasn't aware of. What all do they have there?
>
>
> --
> Dennis
>

They used to be a used equipment dealer and have downsized into general machine
shop supply. They still have a good selection of used tooling and they have
just about anything a production shop could need. Their prices are very good
and they can get you anything you want. Their staff isn't the most
knowledgeable but do OK.



Posted by spaco on March 21, 2008, 5:32 pm
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The answer to your question: I do keep the swivel under the vise.

The only downside for me is that I loose the height of the swivel
between the quill and the table. It has gotten in the way a couple of
times. Then I take the whole thing off and install the old bridgeport
vise.

Pete Stanaitis
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Tom Gardner wrote:
> I have a brand-spankin'-new Kurt D675 vise (no oopses yet) and I needed a way
to
> do angled slots. I found this swivel base on eBay
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/KURT-SWIVEL-BASE-for-6-VISE-D60-D675-D688_W0QQitemZ190206341395QQihZ009QQcategoryZ25297QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> BUT...my little brain doesn't see how this fits, it seems like I need some
other
> part. I confess, I didn't take the vise off of the mill because it's within
> half a thou of perfect and somebody's got a job in process. I picked-up a
> cheapie 4" swivel vise at the local store for the immediate job and actually,
> it's pretty nice! But, I wonder if the attachment for the Kurt would be a
good
> investment and if I would just leave it on all the time or is there a downside
> to that.
>
> Why is it that the better and better your tooling gets, the more complex,
> intricate and difficult your designs get...it seems were always on the edge of
> the capabilities of out stuff. I'm afraid I'll loose my simplistic thinking.
>
>

Posted by RoyJ on March 21, 2008, 5:33 pm
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Most shops I've seen leave it in place, some pull it. Up side is that it
is always ready, downside is the 1-1/4" or so less effective knee
height and perhaps a little less rigidity.

Tom Gardner wrote:
> I have a brand-spankin'-new Kurt D675 vise (no oopses yet) and I needed a way
to
> do angled slots. I found this swivel base on eBay
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/KURT-SWIVEL-BASE-for-6-VISE-D60-D675-D688_W0QQitemZ190206341395QQihZ009QQcategoryZ25297QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> BUT...my little brain doesn't see how this fits, it seems like I need some
other
> part. I confess, I didn't take the vise off of the mill because it's within
> half a thou of perfect and somebody's got a job in process. I picked-up a
> cheapie 4" swivel vise at the local store for the immediate job and actually,
> it's pretty nice! But, I wonder if the attachment for the Kurt would be a
good
> investment and if I would just leave it on all the time or is there a downside
> to that.
>
> Why is it that the better and better your tooling gets, the more complex,
> intricate and difficult your designs get...it seems were always on the edge of
> the capabilities of out stuff. I'm afraid I'll loose my simplistic thinking.
>
>

Posted by Jon Elson on March 21, 2008, 6:18 pm
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Tom Gardner wrote:
> I have a brand-spankin'-new Kurt D675 vise (no oopses yet) and I needed a way
to
> do angled slots. I found this swivel base on eBay
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/KURT-SWIVEL-BASE-for-6-VISE-D60-D675-D688_W0QQitemZ190206341395QQihZ009QQcategoryZ25297QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> BUT...my little brain doesn't see how this fits, it seems like I need some
other
> part. I confess, I didn't take the vise off of the mill because it's within
> half a thou of perfect and somebody's got a job in process. I picked-up a
> cheapie 4" swivel vise at the local store for the immediate job and actually,
> it's pretty nice! But, I wonder if the attachment for the Kurt would be a
good
> investment and if I would just leave it on all the time or is there a downside
> to that.

I got a Chinese Kurk knock-off some years ago, it came with the swivel.
The first cut I made with it, the vise was vibrating like crazy. So,
I took off the swivel, bolted the vise directly to the table, and
haven't used it since. Unless you will always make light cuts with the
swivel, you will not be very happy with it at all. I'm not talking
about a slight vibration, I could SEE the vise rocking from side to side!
Maybe the Kurt is stiffer in some way, but I doubt it is a great
improvement on the knock-off, as cast iron is fairly cheap.

Jon


Posted by spaco on March 21, 2008, 7:17 pm
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I never notice any of this vibration with my Kurt swivel.
What kind of cuts do you take? I will often take a 40 thou full cut
with a 1 1/2" face mill.

Pete Stanaitis.
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> I got a Chinese Kurk knock-off some years ago, it came with the swivel.
> The first cut I made with it, the vise was vibrating like crazy. So, I
> took off the swivel, bolted the vise directly to the table, and haven't
> used it since. Unless you will always make light cuts with the swivel,
> you will not be very happy with it at all. I'm not talking about a
> slight vibration, I could SEE the vise rocking from side to side!
> Maybe the Kurt is stiffer in some way, but I doubt it is a great
> improvement on the knock-off, as cast iron is fairly cheap.
>
> Jon
>

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