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Posted by DoN. Nichols on October 12, 2008, 4:00 pm
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> On 11 Oct 2008 22:04:39 GMT, the infamous "DoN. Nichols"
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>>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:04:56 +0000, the infamous Christopher Tidy
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>> [ ... ]
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>>>>I came across this abominable piece of web design yesterday. A truly
>>>>gratuitous use for Flash:
>>>>http://www.rbfotografia.com.br/avaliacoes/105_1.8en_1.htm
Having now checked it out (after verifying that I could
traceroute to the site, since I have a lot of .br blocked), I agree.
There was absolutely nothing in there which should require Flash to
display. Plain HTML would suffice for the while thing.
And this is the first site which I have found which required
Flash, but did *not* require JavaScript at the same time.
But what in the world is an English-language only lens review
doing in a site in Brazil?
>>> I get REALLY pissed off when someone takes my spacebar 'page down'
>>> away from me. Grrrrrrr!
And that seems to happen when Flash starts.
>> Hmm ... what browser are you using? I'm using Opera, which
>>allows you to set preferences on a site-by-site basis (after turning off
>>a lot of things as the default). Among other things, the sub-menu for
>>controlling scripting (aside from just turning on and off JavaScript
>>itself) includes:
>
> I have Javascript and Java turned on. The above link kills HTML
> keyboard characteristics in both Firefox 2 (my main browser) and MS
> Internet Exploder 7 (which I only use for Netflix because Netflix
> isn't sophisticated enough to work with the better browser.) Feh!
:-)
I wonder whether it would work with Opera if I turned on either
"Identify as Explorer" or "Mask as Explorer". (I'm not sure what the
distinction is, but both are there.)
>
>> It is free -- and it is a fast browser.
>
> I thought the free version of Opera had beaucoup integrated
> advertisements. The earlier versions did, and I nuked it because of
> that.
That was some time ago. They long ago went to fully free for
everyone, with no ads.
With the early versions -- you could select remove (and thus
variable) ads, or compiled-in ads (a much smaller list), and since I
sometimes used it purely for local access, I went for the compiled-in
ones because it took forever to start up while it was vainly trying to
access remote ads.
I think that they make their money off other products now.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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Posted by Leon Fisk on October 12, 2008, 4:48 pm
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On 12 Oct 2008 20:00:46 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
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>I wonder whether it would work with Opera if I turned on either
>"Identify as Explorer" or "Mask as Explorer". (I'm not sure what the
>distinction is, but both are there.)
<snip>
"Identify as Explorer" still has Opera in the ID. It will
fool many sites though. "Mask as Explorer" removes all
traces of Opera from the browser ID. You can only set the
latter individually for each site. The first Identify choice
can be set globally until you change it to something else.
Even if you set Opera to "Mask as Explorer" there are other
ways a site can still figure out that you are using Opera if
it tries hard enough. The only surefire way is to use a
local proxy to change the string.
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Leon Fisk
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Posted by Christopher Tidy on October 12, 2008, 5:03 pm
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DoN. Nichols wrote:
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>>On 11 Oct 2008 22:04:39 GMT, the infamous "DoN. Nichols"
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:04:56 +0000, the infamous Christopher Tidy
>>>
>>> [ ... ]
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I came across this abominable piece of web design yesterday. A truly
>>>>>gratuitous use for Flash:
>>>>>http://www.rbfotografia.com.br/avaliacoes/105_1.8en_1.htm
>>>>
>
> Having now checked it out (after verifying that I could
> traceroute to the site, since I have a lot of .br blocked), I agree.
> There was absolutely nothing in there which should require Flash to
> display. Plain HTML would suffice for the while thing.
>
> And this is the first site which I have found which required
> Flash, but did *not* require JavaScript at the same time.
>
> But what in the world is an English-language only lens review
> doing in a site in Brazil?
It's plain weird. I can only think that the guy got a piece of free
software which makes web pages using Flash. Otherwise, it makes no sense.
Still, I shouldn't be too hard on the guy. We all have to start somewhere.
Best wishes,
Chris
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Posted by Christopher Tidy on October 12, 2008, 5:06 pm
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DoN. Nichols wrote:
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>>On 11 Oct 2008 22:04:39 GMT, the infamous "DoN. Nichols"
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>>>
>>>>On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:04:56 +0000, the infamous Christopher Tidy
>>>
>>> [ ... ]
>>>
>>>
>>>>>I came across this abominable piece of web design yesterday. A truly
>>>>>gratuitous use for Flash:
>>>>>http://www.rbfotografia.com.br/avaliacoes/105_1.8en_1.htm
>>>>
>
> Having now checked it out (after verifying that I could
> traceroute to the site, since I have a lot of .br blocked), I agree.
> There was absolutely nothing in there which should require Flash to
> display. Plain HTML would suffice for the while thing.
>
> And this is the first site which I have found which required
> Flash, but did *not* require JavaScript at the same time.
>
> But what in the world is an English-language only lens review
> doing in a site in Brazil?
His images also need a touch of sharpening after resizing.
Best wishes,
Chris
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Posted by Christopher Tidy on October 12, 2008, 1:18 pm
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DoN. Nichols wrote:
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>>On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:04:56 +0000, the infamous Christopher Tidy
>
>
> [ ... ]
>
>
>>>I came across this abominable piece of web design yesterday. A truly
>>>gratuitous use for Flash:
>>>http://www.rbfotografia.com.br/avaliacoes/105_1.8en_1.htm
>>
>>I get REALLY pissed off when someone takes my spacebar 'page down'
>>away from me. Grrrrrrr!
>
>
> Hmm ... what browser are you using? I'm using Opera, which
> allows you to set preferences on a site-by-site basis (after turning off
> a lot of things as the default). Among other things, the sub-menu for
> controlling scripting (aside from just turning on and off JavaScript
> itself) includes:
>
> ======================================================================
> [] Enable JavaScript
Dare I also suggest that many (possibly most) of the things for which
JavaScript is used could better be achieved in other ways?
It's not in the same category as Flash, but it is used excessively and
often makes browsing the web slower.
Best wishes,
Chris
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