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Organ metal stuartwilliammurray 05-10-2008
Posted by on May 10, 2008, 8:05 am
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I'm hoping to build a small pipe organ this summer, and as well as a
rank of wooden pipes, I would like to make a set of small metal ones.
The largest would be 2', going down to a few inches. The trouble is
that most organ builders cast their own mixture of lead and tin for
pipe building, which I don't belive is comercially available. Can
anyone suggest another sheet metal that is:

Easily worked
Solders well with an iron
Isn't too hard to get hold of
Isn't going to break the bank


Sorry if this is the wrong group; many thanks.

Posted by David Billington on May 10, 2008, 11:52 am
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stuartwilliammurray@googlemail.com wrote:
> I'm hoping to build a small pipe organ this summer, and as well as a
> rank of wooden pipes, I would like to make a set of small metal ones.
> The largest would be 2', going down to a few inches. The trouble is
> that most organ builders cast their own mixture of lead and tin for
> pipe building, which I don't belive is comercially available. Can
> anyone suggest another sheet metal that is:
>
> Easily worked
> Solders well with an iron
> Isn't too hard to get hold of
> Isn't going to break the bank
>
>
> Sorry if this is the wrong group; many thanks.
>
Have you seen this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rb8FMvbe20 . Looks
like it might be fairly easy to replicate. Christopher, in another
reply, mentioned higher levels of tin in better quality work so maybe
pewter (britania metal) might be an option, although I have never
tried to solder it with an iron only torch. It would also help if you
mentioned your location.

Posted by Christopher Tidy on May 10, 2008, 1:23 pm
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David Billington wrote:

<snip>

> Have you seen this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rb8FMvbe20 . Looks
> like it might be fairly easy to replicate. Christopher, in another
> reply, mentioned higher levels of tin in better quality work so maybe
> pewter (britania metal) might be an option, although I have never
> tried to solder it with an iron only torch. It would also help if you
> mentioned your location.

That's an interesting video. To elaborate, this is what the book says
about alloy composition:

"In the last hundred years or more, lead-tin alloy pipes for organs have
been made with as high a composition as 85 wt% lead and 15 wt% tin.
However, the organ trade had the view that no alloy for organ pipes
contain less than 25 % tin, and in really good work no alloy with less
than 55 % tin should be employed."

Best wishes,

Chris


Posted by David Billington on May 10, 2008, 1:09 pm
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Christopher Tidy wrote:
> David Billington wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Have you seen this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rb8FMvbe20 . Looks
>> like it might be fairly easy to replicate. Christopher, in another
>> reply, mentioned higher levels of tin in better quality work so
>> maybe pewter (britania metal) might be an option, although I have
>> never tried to solder it with an iron only torch. It would also help
>> if you mentioned your location.
>
> That's an interesting video. To elaborate, this is what the book says
> about alloy composition:
>
> "In the last hundred years or more, lead-tin alloy pipes for organs
> have been made with as high a composition as 85 wt% lead and 15 wt%
> tin. However, the organ trade had the view that no alloy for organ
> pipes contain less than 25 % tin, and in really good work no alloy
> with less than 55 % tin should be employed."
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Chris
>
I wonder what the pewter I have would work like, it's 92-6-2, 92% tin,
6% antimony, 2% copper.

And the things you find on the internet
www.hevanet.com/dibblee/pipe_metallurgy.pdf

Posted by Jon Elson on May 12, 2008, 1:47 am
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David Billington wrote:
>>
> I wonder what the pewter I have would work like, it's 92-6-2, 92% tin,
> 6% antimony, 2% copper.
I thinbk Pewter is too brittle to be rolled into tubes.

Jon

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