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Propane conversion (some metal content) Ivan Vegvary 05-04-2008
Posted by on May 4, 2008, 10:00 pm
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>
>> One interesting fact. Propane tractors used to have more HP than the
>> gas equivalent. The reason was that they had a higher compression
>> ratio.
>
>Are you _sure_ that they were running Propane and not Butane? <g>
>
>FWIW, the diesel-engine hot-rodders have turned to Propane injection to
>achieve the same kind of boost that the gas-engine hot-rodders get with
>Nitrous Oxide injection. <grin>


LP tractors in North America ran Propane. They DID run higher
compression because Propane has a base octane (knock index) rating of
115.
In europe Butane was more common than propane.
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Posted by RAM³ on May 4, 2008, 11:32 pm
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clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada wrote in

> wrote:
>
>>
>>> One interesting fact. Propane tractors used to have more HP than the
>>> gas equivalent. The reason was that they had a higher compression
>>> ratio.
>>
>>Are you _sure_ that they were running Propane and not Butane? <g>
>>
>>FWIW, the diesel-engine hot-rodders have turned to Propane injection to
>>achieve the same kind of boost that the gas-engine hot-rodders get with
>>Nitrous Oxide injection. <grin>
>
>
> LP tractors in North America ran Propane. They DID run higher
> compression because Propane has a base octane (knock index) rating of
> 115.
> In europe Butane was more common than propane.
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>

Along the Texas Gulf Coast there are still quite a number of tractors
running on Butane since the farmers' houses still use Butane rather than
Propane for their appliances.

While Butane appliances are hard to find, there are still quite a lot of
them around.

As you can imagine, it rarely gets cold enough around here for Butane to
fail to gassify although there _have_ been rare occurences.

Most of the LP-fuelled tractors around here are all the same color: Rust.
<grin>


Posted by Steve W. on May 5, 2008, 12:10 am
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clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada wrote:
> wrote:
>
>>
>>> One interesting fact. Propane tractors used to have more HP than the
>>> gas equivalent. The reason was that they had a higher compression
>>> ratio.
>> Are you _sure_ that they were running Propane and not Butane? <g>
>>
>> FWIW, the diesel-engine hot-rodders have turned to Propane injection to
>> achieve the same kind of boost that the gas-engine hot-rodders get with
>> Nitrous Oxide injection. <grin>
>
>
> LP tractors in North America ran Propane. They DID run higher
> compression because Propane has a base octane (knock index) rating of
> 115.
> In europe Butane was more common than propane.
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

And if you find a complete propane fueled popular brand tractor these
days it's worth real money. Many of the popular models lost there heads
to guys who are using them on "stock" pulling tractors.

--
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York

Posted by Martin H. Eastburn on May 5, 2008, 8:55 pm
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In the states getting pure Propane is a bad bet. Normally a
mix of hydro-carbons. Propane and Butane and whatnot - a.k.a. LP gas.
The mixture might change depending on the outside air and price.

Butane goes liquid as temperatures drive towards freezing. Propane won't.

Martin

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clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada wrote:
> wrote:
>
>>
>>> One interesting fact. Propane tractors used to have more HP than the
>>> gas equivalent. The reason was that they had a higher compression
>>> ratio.
>> Are you _sure_ that they were running Propane and not Butane? <g>
>>
>> FWIW, the diesel-engine hot-rodders have turned to Propane injection to
>> achieve the same kind of boost that the gas-engine hot-rodders get with
>> Nitrous Oxide injection. <grin>
>
>
> LP tractors in North America ran Propane. They DID run higher
> compression because Propane has a base octane (knock index) rating of
> 115.
> In europe Butane was more common than propane.
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **


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Posted by RAM³ on May 7, 2008, 11:27 am
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> In the states getting pure Propane is a bad bet. Normally a
> mix of hydro-carbons. Propane and Butane and whatnot - a.k.a. LP
> gas. The mixture might change depending on the outside air and price.
>
> Butane goes liquid as temperatures drive towards freezing. Propane
> won't.

Around here it may get near/at/below freezing 1-3 nights/year. <grin>

That's why Butane's popularity was so high in this area.

Butane, now, seems to be used mostly in "lighters" and "pocket torches".


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