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Posted by on April 13, 2008, 9:08 am
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> >> ...and our gallon is bigger.
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> >> Jeff R.
> >> (but we don't like to brag)
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> > Dunno - I know the American Gallon is "different" - I used 3.78 litres
> > as an equivalent. Our dollar is worth 90c American - its not getting
> > worth more, yours is going down against the rest of the world. This is
> > good for me, I can afford to buy Chinese tools cheaper from the states
> > than I can here...(go figure THAT one!) - now, if your postage prices
> > were not so outrageous....(bloody liberals again...)
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> > Andrew VK3BFA.
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> Sorry Andrew - I should have clarified. I'm posting from VK2.
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> :-)
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> Jeff R.
Well, that was an "oops" moment!. .....petrol here is hovering about
$1.44, will be interesting to see what it gets to on Tuesday, thats
the traditional bottom of the discount cycle. Papers reckon it will
hit $1.50 by the end of next week. (Bugger!) I am relatively lucky,
only do 1 long trip a week to TAFE, (metalworking course) - the rest
of the time, its local short distance stuff. And I can choose when I
go out, so don't waste fuel sitting in traffic jams.....ever had the
thought, crawling down the "freeway" that this is bloody ridiculous -
have the urge to pull into the centre median, get out the portable gas
stove, brew up a cup of tea. Stick a sign out, saying "why are you
doing this - stop for a cuppa - stop being a lab rat. " - if enough
people did it, then, maybe, it would be recognised as a bloody silly
way of moving people about - all at the same time - endless oceans of
cars, usually with one person in them, stretching into the distance,
moving at less than walking pace.....
Andrew VK3BFA.
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Posted by on April 13, 2008, 9:06 am
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On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 02:53:12 -0700 (PDT), vk3bfa@hotmail.com wrote:
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>> > vk3...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >>> Well it looks like we will definitely see $4 dollar gas this summer.
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>> >>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080408/ap_on_bi_ge/gas_demand;_ylt=Alg4Q...
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>> >>> Any thoughts as to how this will affect us HSMers in the shop?
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>> >>> I already find myself limiting the distance I will drive to view,
>> >>> purchase and pickup machines and supplies for my shop.
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>> >>> TMT
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>> >> Wow, $4 a gallon! - thats a really good price, where can I get some? -
>> >> here in OZ its $5.30 a gallon,
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>> > And your dollar is actually worth something.
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>> ...and our gallon is bigger.
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>> --
>> Jeff R.
>> (but we don't like to brag)
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>Dunno - I know the American Gallon is "different" - I used 3.78 litres
>as an equivalent. Our dollar is worth 90c American - its not getting
>worth more, yours is going down against the rest of the world. This is
>good for me, I can afford to buy Chinese tools cheaper from the states
>than I can here...(go figure THAT one!) - now, if your postage prices
>were not so outrageous....(bloody liberals again...)
>
>Andrew VK3BFA.
The yankee gallon is a pipsqueak
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
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Posted by F. George McDuffee on April 13, 2008, 12:15 pm
Please log in for more thread options On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 02:53:12 -0700 (PDT), vk3bfa@hotmail.com
wrote:
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>> > vk3...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >>> Well it looks like we will definitely see $4 dollar gas this summer.
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>> >>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080408/ap_on_bi_ge/gas_demand;_ylt=Alg4Q...
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>> >>> Any thoughts as to how this will affect us HSMers in the shop?
>>
>> >>> I already find myself limiting the distance I will drive to view,
>> >>> purchase and pickup machines and supplies for my shop.
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>> >>> TMT
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>> >> Wow, $4 a gallon! - thats a really good price, where can I get some? -
>> >> here in OZ its $5.30 a gallon,
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>> > And your dollar is actually worth something.
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>> ...and our gallon is bigger.
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>> --
>> Jeff R.
>> (but we don't like to brag)
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>Dunno - I know the American Gallon is "different" - I used 3.78 litres
>as an equivalent. Our dollar is worth 90c American - its not getting
>worth more, yours is going down against the rest of the world. This is
>good for me, I can afford to buy Chinese tools cheaper from the states
>than I can here...(go figure THAT one!) - now, if your postage prices
>were not so outrageous....(bloody liberals again...)
>
>Andrew VK3BFA.
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Problem is that you are comparing pump price to pump price. I
don't know the situation "down under," but the actual price of
gasoline and diesel is now around 10$US per gallon when the oil
company tax credits, tax exemptions, tax increment financing
districts, free oil from under federal land, stolen oil [pumped
but not paid for] from Indian reservations, etc.. One
particularly glaring example of this was when Saudi Arabia
decided to impose higher royalties on exported oil. The oil
companies got the Saudis to call it a tax, which by US/SAUDI
treaty could be deducted from the oil company US taxes.
It goes even higher when the lost tax revenues from transfer
pricing are included, which must be made up by either borrowing
or increased individual taxes.
The price climbs even more when the war costs are included, not
only for combat but the damage done to the trust and cooperation
of the people of the mid-east for the United States.
If we expect the "free market" to work, accurate and timely
information must be available to the consumers. Charging the
actual 10 or 12 $US per gallon at the pump while eliminating the
oil company tax dodges and "cost externalization", would indeed
cause massive economic dislocation in the short run, but would
result in rational lifestyle decisions about alternative energy,
high mileage vehicles [i.e. no more Hummers], no more urban
sprawl w/2 to 3 hour commutes, far few giant box stores, etc.
This has no chance of occurring until total "melt down" occurs.
The Romans got "bread and circuses," the US gets gasoline and
professional sports.
Unka' George [George McDuffee]
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He that will not apply new remedies,
must expect new evils:
for Time is the greatest innovator: and
if Time, of course, alter things to the worse,
and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better,
what shall be the end?
Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman.
Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).
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Posted by on April 13, 2008, 8:04 pm
Please log in for more thread options > On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:56:59 -0700 (PDT), vk3...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> Well it looks like we will definitely see $4 dollar gas this summer.
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> >>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080408/ap_on_bi_ge/gas_demand;_ylt=Alg4Q...
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> >> Any thoughts as to how this will affect us HSMers in the shop?
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> >> I already find myself limiting the distance I will drive to view,
> >> purchase and pickup machines and supplies for my shop.
>
> >> TMT
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> >Wow, $4 a gallon! - thats a really good price, where can I get some? -
> >here in OZ its $5.30 a gallon, and climbing. Predicted to be $5.67 by
> >end of next week - something to do with the price of crude in
> >Singapore going up.) Must be those pesky liberals again, making life
> >difficult for you guys...
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> >(Gunner will respond with "proof" that this is so....)
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> >Andrew VK3BFA.
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> Lefties will of course blame this on Bush.
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> Gunner
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That would be far too simplistic Gunner - comforting, yes, but
accurate - no. He is just one silly person , the nominal head of a
whole system that has the planet drowning in its own garbage.
Replacing Mr Bush with "someone else" would make no difference.
But if you feel comfortable blaming left or right, thats fine -
nothing said here can change your mind in any way beyond reinforcing
lifelong beliefs.
Interestingly enough, the younger people are increasingly blaming our
generation for the mess the world is in. They don't get bogged down in
dinosaur politics - its irrelevant to them - they just damn us all! -
as long as we can find a convenient left/right scapegoat to absolve us
from actually taking any real responsibility at a personal level, they
may well be right.
Andrew VK3bFA.
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Posted by Citizen Jimserac on April 14, 2008, 9:35 am
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DINOSAUR POLITICS!
What a delightful characterization of
your position.
I will leave you with a sample of the depth of "strategy"
of our commander (sic) in chief:
"We've gotta stop them over there BEFORE they
come over here".
You don't have to be a liberal to see how STUPID
THAT is.
Citizen Jimserac
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