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Re: $4 dollar gas and its effects on metalworking vk3bfa 04-13-2008
Posted by Bill on April 14, 2008, 11:01 am
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> DINOSAUR POLITICS!
>
> What a delightful characterization of
> your position.
>
> I will leave you with a sample of the depth of "strategy"
> of our commander (sic) in chief:
> "We've gotta stop them over there BEFORE they
> come over here".
>
> You don't have to be a liberal to see how STUPID
> THAT is.
>
> Citizen Jimserac
>

No, but you have to be a liberal to be stupid enough to make such a
statement.


How in your view is stopping them before they come over here and blow up
more stuff and kill more civilians a lack of depth in strategy?? If
someone tells me that they are going to kill my family and blow up my house
I'm not going to wait until it happens, I'm going to make sure one way or
another it CAN'T happen.

Bill

Posted by Citizen Jimserac on April 14, 2008, 12:25 pm
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> a52c-9e9ec45d4...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
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>
>
> > DINOSAUR POLITICS!
>
> > What a delightful characterization of
> > your position.
>
> > I will leave you with a sample of the depth of "strategy"
> > of our commander (sic) in chief:
> > "We've gotta stop them over there BEFORE they
> > come over here".
>
> > You don't have to be a liberal to see how STUPID
> > THAT is.
>
> > Citizen Jimserac
>
> No, but you have to be a liberal to be stupid enough to make such a
> statement.
>
> How in your view is stopping them before they come over here and blow up
> more stuff and kill more civilians a lack of depth in strategy?? If
> someone tells me that they are going to kill my family and blow up my house
> I'm not going to wait until it happens, I'm going to make sure one way or
> another it CAN'T happen.
>
> Bill

BECAUSE WITH OUR OPEN BORDERS AND PORTS...
THEY'RE ALREADY HERE. OBVIOUS.

Citizen Jimserac

Posted by Citizen Jimserac on April 15, 2008, 7:38 am
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> > > a52c-9e9ec45d4...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
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> > > > DINOSAUR POLITICS!
>
> > > > What a delightful characterization of
> > > > your position.
>
> > > > I will leave you with a sample of the depth of "strategy"
> > > > of our commander (sic) in chief:
> > > > "We've gotta stop them over there BEFORE they
> > > > come over here".
>
> > > > You don't have to be a liberal to see how STUPID
> > > > THAT is.
>
> > > > CitizenJimserac
>
> > > No, but you have to be a liberal to be stupid enough to make such a
> > > statement.
>
> > > How in your view is stopping them before they come over here and blow up
> > > more stuff and kill more civilians a lack of depth in strategy?? If
> > > someone tells me that they are going to kill my family and blow up my house
> > > I'm not going to wait until it happens, I'm going to make sure one way or
> > > another it CAN'T happen.
>
> > > Bill
>
> > BECAUSE WITH OUR OPEN BORDERS AND PORTS...
> > THEY'RE ALREADY HERE. OBVIOUS.
>
> > CitizenJimserac- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Correct.
>
> And those open borders are because of Bush.
>
> TMT

Well yes, mostly so, but the policies and intentional non-enforcement
of border laws goes back several decades before Bush and BOTH
political parties and various administrations were complicit.

The near dysfunctional state of the dept. of Immigration and
Naturalization, and their incredible approval of renewal of student
visas for several of the terrorists who died in the 9-11 attacks
attest to that.

It is clear that without border and port security in the U.S., the
idea that the war in Iraq would stop terrorists from coming here was
a farce, good for news sound bytes and NOTHING more.

Citizen jimserac

Posted by Citizen Jimserac on April 17, 2008, 8:43 am
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> > > > > a52c-9e9ec45d4...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
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> > > > > > DINOSAUR POLITICS!
>
> > > > > > What a delightful characterization of
> > > > > > your position.
>
> > > > > > I will leave you with a sample of the depth of "strategy"
> > > > > > of our commander (sic) in chief:
> > > > > > "We've gotta stop them over there BEFORE they
> > > > > > come over here".
>
> > > > > > You don't have to be a liberal to see how STUPID
> > > > > > THAT is.
>
> > > > > > CitizenJimserac
>
> > > > > No, but you have to be a liberal to be stupid enough to make such a
> > > > > statement.
>
> > > > > How in your view is stopping them before they come over here and blow
up
> > > > > more stuff and kill more civilians a lack of depth in strategy?? If
> > > > > someone tells me that they are going to kill my family and blow up my
house
> > > > > I'm not going to wait until it happens, I'm going to make sure one way
or
> > > > > another it CAN'T happen.
>
> > > > > Bill
>
> > > > BECAUSE WITH OUR OPEN BORDERS AND PORTS...
> > > > THEY'RE ALREADY HERE. OBVIOUS.
>
> > > > CitizenJimserac- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Correct.
>
> > > And those open borders are because of Bush.
>
> > > TMT
>
> > Well yes, mostly so, but the policies and intentional non-enforcement
> > of border laws goes back several decades before Bush and BOTH
> > political parties and various administrations were complicit.
>
> > The near dysfunctional state of the dept. of Immigration and
> > Naturalization, and their incredible approval of renewal of student
> > visas for several of the terrorists who died in the 9-11 attacks
> > attest to that.
>
> > It is clear that without border and port security in the U.S., the
> > idea that the war in Iraq would stop terrorists from coming here was
> > a farce, good for news sound bytes and NOTHING more.
>
> > Citizenjimserac- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> Agreed that both parties share the blame...BUT...Bush has been in
> place coming up on eight years and the Republican Congress even
> longer.
>
> They have worked hard to get us to where we are today...and where we
> are is not good.
>
> TMT

Agreed!

CJ

Posted by Ed Huntress on April 14, 2008, 12:55 pm
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> a52c-9e9ec45d48b0@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
>
>>
>> DINOSAUR POLITICS!
>>
>> What a delightful characterization of
>> your position.
>>
>> I will leave you with a sample of the depth of "strategy"
>> of our commander (sic) in chief:
>> "We've gotta stop them over there BEFORE they
>> come over here".
>>
>> You don't have to be a liberal to see how STUPID
>> THAT is.
>>
>> Citizen Jimserac
>>
>
> No, but you have to be a liberal to be stupid enough to make such a
> statement.
>
>
> How in your view is stopping them before they come over here and blow up
> more stuff and kill more civilians a lack of depth in strategy?? If
> someone tells me that they are going to kill my family and blow up my
> house
> I'm not going to wait until it happens, I'm going to make sure one way or
> another it CAN'T happen.

Because there's nothing stopping them *now* from coming over here and
blowing up more stuff. And there are fewer trained people here now to stop
them. Our defensive resources are busy, over there.

Bill, the whole idea that we're "stopping them" over there, so they won't
come over here, may be the stupidist strategy idea in the history of the US.
The people we're stopping "over there" aren't the same people who would come
over here, in the first place. Fighting them over there just increases their
incentive to strike over here. And we're wasting our resources fighting
thousands of them over there, when what we really need to do is to protect
against perhaps dozens of them attacking over here. See 9/11 for reference.

--
Ed Huntress



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