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Re: $4 dollar gas and its effects on metalworking vk3bfa 04-13-2008
Posted by Larry Jaques on April 14, 2008, 4:48 pm
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:55:44 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ed

>
>> How in your view is stopping them before they come over here and blow up
>> more stuff and kill more civilians a lack of depth in strategy?? If
>> someone tells me that they are going to kill my family and blow up my
>> house
>> I'm not going to wait until it happens, I'm going to make sure one way or
>> another it CAN'T happen.
>
>Because there's nothing stopping them *now* from coming over here and
>blowing up more stuff. And there are fewer trained people here now to stop
>them. Our defensive resources are busy, over there.

What? You feel that our highly trained airport goons aren't any good?
That our holey border fences north and south won't stop the tangoes?


>Bill, the whole idea that we're "stopping them" over there, so they won't
>come over here, may be the stupidist strategy idea in the history of the US.
>The people we're stopping "over there" aren't the same people who would come
>over here, in the first place. Fighting them over there just increases their
>incentive to strike over here.

Ironic, ain't it?


>And we're wasting our resources fighting
>thousands of them over there, when what we really need to do is to protect
>against perhaps dozens of them attacking over here. See 9/11 for reference.

Awww, you were doing so well, too, Ed. The glitch is that we cannot
protect ourselves or our country from terrorist attacks, period. We
can catch several (maybe even most) attempts, but we can't get all of
them. And that included both foreign and domestic terrorists. You or
anyone you know (or don't know) could cause any one of hundreds of
terrorist acts and nobody would be the wiser until it was over.
That's its beauty (when our military needs it) and terror (when they
do it to us.)

--
It is better to wear out than to rust out.
-- Bishop Richard Cumberland

Posted by Citizen Jimserac on April 15, 2008, 7:35 am
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>
>
>
>
> > a52c-9e9ec45d4...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
>
>
> >> DINOSAUR POLITICS!
>
> >> What a delightful characterization of
> >> your position.
>
> >> I will leave you with a sample of the depth of "strategy"
> >> of our commander (sic) in chief:
> >> "We've gotta stop them over there BEFORE they
> >> come over here".
>
> >> You don't have to be a liberal to see how STUPID
> >> THAT is.
>
> >> CitizenJimserac
>
> > No, but you have to be a liberal to be stupid enough to make such a
> > statement.
>
> > How in your view is stopping them before they come over here and blow up
> > more stuff and kill more civilians a lack of depth in strategy?? If
> > someone tells me that they are going to kill my family and blow up my
> > house
> > I'm not going to wait until it happens, I'm going to make sure one way or
> > another it CAN'T happen.
>
> Because there's nothing stopping them *now* from coming over here and
> blowing up more stuff. And there are fewer trained people here now to stop
> them. Our defensive resources are busy, over there.
>
> Bill, the whole idea that we're "stopping them" over there, so they won't
> come over here, may be the stupidist strategy idea in the history of the US.
> The people we're stopping "over there" aren't the same people who would come
> over here, in the first place. Fighting them over there just increases their
> incentive to strike over here. And we're wasting our resources fighting
> thousands of them over there, when what we really need to do is to protect
> against perhaps dozens of them attacking over here. See 9/11 for reference.
>
> --
> Ed Huntress

Exactly correct. Thank God there are people that
can still think and still have common sense and
do not listen to such strategic nonsense as the "president"
has spouted.

This does NOT mean that the Democrats have anything
better. Their party, too, was hijacked and partially destroyed by the
neo-cons.

Somehow, Bush and the neo-cons made ANY QUESTIONING of their idiot
pretend war on terrorism un-patriotic. That worked for a while but
by now the vast majority of the American people have figured out that
the war on terrorism and the war on Iraq are two different things with
wildly disparate motives and objectives.

This does not bode well for Bush's "legacy" (GUFFAW).

Citizen Jimserac

Posted by Bill on April 15, 2008, 8:16 am
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> This does not bode well for Bush's "legacy" (GUFFAW).
>
> Citizen Jimserac

Ah, now I understand, you are in the last stages of BDS. Doesn't matter
what Bush does he is evil, stupid, etc....

Into the pit with you, 'plink'


Bill

Posted by pyotr filipivich on April 15, 2008, 5:11 pm
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I missed the Staff meeting, but the Memos showed that Gunner Asch
in rec.crafts.metalworking :
>On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 06:35:16 -0700 (PDT), Citizen Jimserac
>
>>
>>DINOSAUR POLITICS!
>>
>>What a delightful characterization of
>>your position.
>>
>>I will leave you with a sample of the depth of "strategy"
>>of our commander (sic) in chief:
>>"We've gotta stop them over there BEFORE they
>>come over here".
>>
>>You don't have to be a liberal to see how STUPID
>>THAT is.
>>
>>Citizen Jimserac
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv4s3fn8jDc

        Thanks gunner.

        "Citizen" Jim needs to have someone explain, probably with small
words and simple pictures. how really stupid it is to wait until
something bad happens, and then launch a police investigation. I
figure a Tanya Harding episode applied personally might get the
message though.

        "The ear of the fool is on his back" - an Egyptian Proverb I
recall from my travels.

pyotr
--
pyotr filipivich
"I had just been through hell and must have looked like death warmed
over walking into the saloon, because when I asked the bartender
whether they served zombies he said, ‘Sure, what'll you have?'"
from I Hear America Swinging by Peter DeVries

Posted by Ed Huntress on April 15, 2008, 4:25 pm
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<snip>

> "Citizen" Jim needs to have someone explain, probably with small
> words and simple pictures. how really stupid it is to wait until
> something bad happens, and then launch a police investigation.

Do you apply that principle to gun control, too?

--
Ed Huntress



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