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General Metalworking - All aspects of working with metal.
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Posted by Jim Chandler on April 9, 2008, 12:04 pm
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Ignoramus15795 wrote:
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>>>>No delivery. You have to "demil" (de militarize) them on the spot. 50
>>>>pounds EACH times 22,000 of them is 28 fully loaded semi trailers full.
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>>>They weigh as much as a complete Big Boy steam engine.
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>>It's going to be interesting who does finally buy them, and what they do
>>with them. Anyone with this knowledge, please keep us posted.
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> They are supposed to be "demilled", which will render them militarily
> useless. Basically they will be ruined mechanically (the procedure is
> outlined in the auction). Then they will most likely be sold for
> steel scrap and melted somewhere.
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> What I am wondering about, is why did the military scrap them.
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Probably due to age. When things reach a certain age the military gets
rid of them, regardless of whether there is any life left in them or not.
Jim
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Posted by pyotr filipivich on April 9, 2008, 7:58 pm
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I missed the Staff meeting, but the Memos showed that Gunner Asch
in rec.crafts.metalworking :
>On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:09:35 -0500, Ignoramus15795
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>>>>> No delivery. You have to "demil" (de militarize) them on the spot. 50
>>>>> pounds EACH times 22,000 of them is 28 fully loaded semi trailers full.
>>>>
>>>> They weigh as much as a complete Big Boy steam engine.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's going to be interesting who does finally buy them, and what they do
>>> with them. Anyone with this knowledge, please keep us posted.
>>>
>>
>>They are supposed to be "demilled", which will render them militarily
>>useless. Basically they will be ruined mechanically (the procedure is
>>outlined in the auction). Then they will most likely be sold for
>>steel scrap and melted somewhere.
>>
>>What I am wondering about, is why did the military scrap them.
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>>i
>And what happened to the explosive filler?
I suspect that may be part of the "de-mil" operation.
I recall the Air Force deciding it had several tons of surplus
bombs, and put them up for bid. The winner was going to use the
explosive as a feed stock for fertilizer & plastics, and then scrap
the cases. The AF decided that was wrong ("some one will profit from
this") and instead blew up the bombs. So for a couple weeks, we'd
hear the 'crump' of HE, and be able to see a cloud of smoke rising
from the EOD area. OTOH - the sales part of the story may have been
rumor, and the reality was the EOD boys just wanted to make noise...
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>Gunner
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pyotr filipivich
"I had just been through hell and must have looked like death warmed
over walking into the saloon, because when I asked the bartender
whether they served zombies he said, ‘Sure, what'll you have?'"
from I Hear America Swinging by Peter DeVries
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Posted by Gunner on April 10, 2008, 6:32 am
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>Gunner Asch wrote:
>> On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:48:38 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
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>>>> They are supposed to be "demilled", which will render them militarily
>>>> useless. Basically they will be ruined mechanically (the procedure is
>>>> outlined in the auction). Then they will most likely be sold for
>>>> steel scrap and melted somewhere.
>>>>
>>>> What I am wondering about, is why did the military scrap them.
>>>
>>> They probably failed xray testing before being reloaded.
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>> Damn....they are reusable?????
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>> Fuckmerunning..technology is a Wonderful thing!
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>What? They didn't make you police up your
>brass, err, steel in Nam and send it back?
Nah..they took the one piece of driving band out of my skull, and
didnt return it.
Gunner
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Posted by Randy on April 9, 2008, 10:17 am
Please log in for more thread options On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:25:28 -0500, Ignoramus15795
>> No delivery. You have to "demil" (de militarize) them on the spot. 50
>> pounds EACH times 22,000 of them is 28 fully loaded semi trailers full.
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>They weigh as much as a complete Big Boy steam engine.
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1.1 million pounds, 22,000 pieces. 90 days to complete the jobs. How
many band saws would you need?
The mill spec sheet lists an oxy fuel torch as an acceptable method
but my experience is cutting a hollow cylinder with a torch sucks.
After the shells are cut "they" will move then to a new pile, then
load them into your trucks in lots of 40,000 lbs.
Thank You,
Randy
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Posted by RoyJ on April 9, 2008, 11:54 am
Please log in for more thread options Assuming 8 hours per day, 5 days per week, you need to do 42 pieces per
hour. Lets say 5 minutes to do the 2 cuts would take 4 bandsaws, 4
operators, and at least 2 laborers hauling material around. 3240 man
hours to salvage 1.1 million pounds. 340 pounds of material per man
hour. I guess you could make some money on that deal. There is some
aluminum and some copper that would need to be separated. I'd be looking
real hard at figuring out how to separate the material as part of the
demil process.
Randy wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:25:28 -0500, Ignoramus15795
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>>> No delivery. You have to "demil" (de militarize) them on the spot. 50
>>> pounds EACH times 22,000 of them is 28 fully loaded semi trailers full.
>> They weigh as much as a complete Big Boy steam engine.
>>
>> i
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> 1.1 million pounds, 22,000 pieces. 90 days to complete the jobs. How
> many band saws would you need?
>
> The mill spec sheet lists an oxy fuel torch as an acceptable method
> but my experience is cutting a hollow cylinder with a torch sucks.
>
> After the shells are cut "they" will move then to a new pile, then
> load them into your trucks in lots of 40,000 lbs.
>
> Thank You,
> Randy
>
> Remove 333 from email address to reply.
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