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Re: "How to Run a Lathe" South Bend Manual Question Jim Wilkins 04-03-2009
Posted by Jim Wilkins on April 3, 2009, 1:25 pm
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> I see several old copies available on eBay.
>
> Is there a particular edition/year that is considered "best" in some
> way?
>
> (Such as: Better illustrations? Easier-to-understand writing style?
> More applicable to current machine designs? Layout or presentation of
> information? Other considerations?)
>
> I am a lurker w/o a lathe - who will someday get one; in the meantime
> would like to bone up on the basic principles.
>
> -j

I have the 1942 and 1965 editions. There isn't much difference and
neither addresses modern geared-head machines, the South Bends had
leather belt drives. The headstock controls accomplish the same
functions as on a modern lathe, they are just arranged and operated
differently.

Manual lathe operation has barely changed since 1900 when High Speed
Steel came out. I'm reading a lathe book from 1906 and almost
everything in it still applies, especially to the small lathes for
hobbyists which are if anything a step down from a good machine of 100
years ago.

Jim Wilkins

Posted by Brian Lawson on April 3, 2009, 6:28 pm
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>> I see several old copies available on eBay.
>>
>> Is there a particular edition/year that is considered "best" in some
>> way?
>>
>> (Such as: Better illustrations? Easier-to-understand writing style?
>> More applicable to current machine designs? Layout or presentation of
>> information? Other considerations?)
>>
>> I am a lurker w/o a lathe - who will someday get one; in the meantime
>> would like to bone up on the basic principles.
>>
>> -j


Hey Joan,

I've got a couple somewhere, but the one I found easily and is
probably the latest (I have) of the SB How .to .Lathe is from 1966 as
a reprint of what on the list on page one appears to have started in
1914.

One thing that was very valuable/useful in those book(lets) is/was
"how to sharpen cutting tools" for a specific job/situation. For your
purposes now-a-days though, one thing about that which has changed, is
that there is less and less of the lantern type tool-holder useage
(had a dished washer and a "rocker" for adjustment action to set the
tool height). A lot, if not most, of the Armstrong toolholders were
made with that in mind. The tool holders themselves are quite
expensive.

Today, pretty much all holders are the Aloris type holders, which hold
tools clamped "flat" and horizontal, rather than "tipped" as with the
lantern type, so it's important to get that concept in mind . It has
quite an effect on how you grind the tool-bits, Not that the proper
"angles" have changed, but the way the tool-bit is held and presented
to the work is, and affects the grinding.

I would suggest "Machine Shop Practice, Vol I & II" by Moltrecht. My
set came through Industrial Press (as in Machinery's Handbook fame).
Another interesting reference (of hundreds) is "The Henry Ford Trade
School" manual.

Take care.

Good luck.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

Posted by mike oberg on April 4, 2009, 4:13 am
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> :
>
> >> I see several old copies available on eBay.
> >>
> >> Is there a particular edition/year that is considered "best" in some
> >> way?
> >>
> >> (Such as: Better illustrations? Easier-to-understand writing style?
> >> More applicable to current machine designs? Layout or presentation of
> >> information? Other considerations?)
> >>
> >> I am a lurker w/o a lathe - who will someday get one; in the meantime
> >> would like to bone up on the basic principles.
> >>
> >> -j
>
--snip--

If you are looking for originals my favorite is the hard back version


m oberg

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