Re: Jean Piaget, Abstrct Thinking and the import in re: Antigun Spin on Heller et alia

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Re: Jean Piaget, Abstrct Thinking and the import in re: Antigun Spin on Heller et alia Gunner Asch 07-19-2008
Posted by Tom Gardner on July 20, 2008, 12:42 pm
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<snip>

> Yeah, it is. Ideologues tend to be insecure thinkers who get along by
> demonizing or belittling the other side. That's how they pump themselves up.
>
> --
> Ed Huntress

I see that only applies to the "Other Guy" whoever that might be.



Posted by John R. Carroll on July 20, 2008, 12:42 pm
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Tom Gardner wrote:
> <snip>
>
>> Yeah, it is. Ideologues tend to be insecure thinkers who get along by
>> demonizing or belittling the other side. That's how they pump
>> themselves up.
>>
>> --
>> Ed Huntress
>
> I see that only applies to the "Other Guy" whoever that might be.


I don't know about that Tom.
The fundamental truth of the matter is that ideologues are a subset of the
insecure.

--

John R. Carroll
www.machiningsolution.com



Posted by Gunner Asch on July 20, 2008, 6:46 pm
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:42:03 -0700, "John R. Carroll"

>Tom Gardner wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Yeah, it is. Ideologues tend to be insecure thinkers who get along by
>>> demonizing or belittling the other side. That's how they pump
>>> themselves up.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ed Huntress
>>
>> I see that only applies to the "Other Guy" whoever that might be.
>
>
>I don't know about that Tom.
>The fundamental truth of the matter is that ideologues are a subset of the
>insecure.


Blink blink...wow...fascinating...but ..again your buffoonish opinion
is noted.


The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in times of great moral
crisis maintain their neutrality",
John F. Kennedy.

Posted by Strabo on July 21, 2008, 11:36 pm
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John R. Carroll wrote:
> Tom Gardner wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Yeah, it is. Ideologues tend to be insecure thinkers who get along by
>>> demonizing or belittling the other side. That's how they pump
>>> themselves up.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ed Huntress
>> I see that only applies to the "Other Guy" whoever that might be.
>
>
> I don't know about that Tom.
> The fundamental truth of the matter is that ideologues are a subset of the
> insecure.
>

You are an ideologue. I am an ideologue. Every poster here is an
ideologue.

Looks like you'll have to debate facts.



ideology

1. the body of doctrine, myth, belief, etc., that guides an individual,
social movement, institution, class, or large group.
2. such a body of doctrine, myth, etc., with reference to some political
and social plan, as that of fascism, along with the devices for putting
it into operation.
3. Philosophy.
a. the study of the nature and origin of ideas.
b. a system that derives ideas exclusively from sensation.
4. theorizing of a visionary or impractical nature.

[Origin: 1790–1800; ideo- + -logy; cf. F idéologie]
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.

Posted by Ed Huntress on July 22, 2008, 12:26 am
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> John R. Carroll wrote:
>> Tom Gardner wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> Yeah, it is. Ideologues tend to be insecure thinkers who get along by
>>>> demonizing or belittling the other side. That's how they pump
>>>> themselves up.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ed Huntress
>>> I see that only applies to the "Other Guy" whoever that might be.
>>
>>
>> I don't know about that Tom.
>> The fundamental truth of the matter is that ideologues are a subset of
>> the
>> insecure.
>>
>
> You are an ideologue. I am an ideologue. Every poster here is an
> ideologue.
>
> Looks like you'll have to debate facts.
>
>
>
> ideology
>
> 1. the body of doctrine, myth, belief, etc., that guides an individual,
> social movement, institution, class, or large group.
> 2. such a body of doctrine, myth, etc., with reference to some political
> and social plan, as that of fascism, along with the devices for putting it
> into operation.
> 3. Philosophy.
> a. the study of the nature and origin of ideas.
> b. a system that derives ideas exclusively from sensation.
> 4. theorizing of a visionary or impractical nature.
>
> [Origin: 1790–1800; ideo- + -logy; cf. F idéologie]
> Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
> Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc.
> 2006.


You looked up the wrong word, strabo. What you want is ideologue, not
ideology. Here's Merriam-Webster's on ideologue:

Main Entry: ideo·logue
Variant(s): also idea·logue 'i-de-?-?lo?g, -?läg
Function: noun
Etymology: French idéologue, back-formation from idéologie
Date: 1815
1 : an impractical idealist : theorist
2 : an often blindly partisan advocate or adherent of a particular ideology


The back formation carries some extra, crucial connotations.

--
Ed Huntress



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