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Posted by F. George McDuffee on July 22, 2008, 9:41 pm
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:50:26 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
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> If what Obama says in his TV ads here in Florida are true, he is
>running for dictator, not president. He constantly talks about the laws
>HE passed, and the LAWS HE WILL PASS AS PRESIDENT. The president
>doesn't pass laws, he signs bills into law, and if he can't grasp this
>basic concept, we are in deep shit.
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This is simply the "Imperial Presidency" made explicit, proving
again "what goes around comes around," and the validity of the
old adage that "you should never chop dow the thicket of the law
to get at the devil, as this leaves you no place to hide when the
devil turns round on you."
The real crunch will occur when the governments can borrow no
more money, and the only people left with any are the hedge fund
managers, corporate executives, and multi-national corporations
with most of their assets in off-shore accounts.
Unka' George [George McDuffee]
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He that will not apply new remedies,
must expect new evils:
for Time is the greatest innovator: and
if Time, of course, alter things to the worse,
and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better,
what shall be the end?
Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman.
Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).
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Posted by Gunner on July 23, 2008, 5:04 am
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:22:29 -0500, grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com
(Gray Ghost) wrote:
>Much of what Obama is talking about goes beyond "change" to a fundemental
>altering of the social and economic fabric of the nation. Americans don't
>like change in big doses. be careful what you for, it could be fatal.
>
>Frank
Got Rope?
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Posted by Ed Huntress on July 23, 2008, 9:33 am
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>> ... That's life. It's a struggle. We're not in control so
>> you better not get too comfortable in your goal of stability.
>>
>> Hawke
>
> Yes indeed the world does change but some things are always right and some
> things are always wrong. Stability is important, and if you folks push
> "change" to fast and upset the apple cart, don't be surprised if it bites
> you
> in ths ass.
>
> Much of what Obama is talking about goes beyond "change" to a fundemental
> altering of the social and economic fabric of the nation. Americans don't
> like change in big doses. be careful what you for, it could be fatal.
>
> Frank
It's interesting that you put that idea at the center, Frank. Not many
self-styled conservatives would do so. What you're saying is the central
principle of intellectual conservatism, and most of today's conservatives
shove that idea to the fringes while they focus on something else -- either
the supposed stupidity of liberalism or some traditions that they mistakenly
attribute to our founding fathers.
I'll bet you've actually studied the subject, eh?
--
Ed Huntress
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Posted by Gray Ghost on July 23, 2008, 12:35 pm
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>
><snip>
>
>>> ... That's life. It's a struggle. We're not in control so
>>> you better not get too comfortable in your goal of stability.
>>>
>>> Hawke
>>
>> Yes indeed the world does change but some things are always right and
>> some things are always wrong. Stability is important, and if you folks
>> push "change" to fast and upset the apple cart, don't be surprised if it
>> bites you in ths ass.
>>
>> Much of what Obama is talking about goes beyond "change" to a
>> fundemental altering of the social and economic fabric of the nation.
>> Americans don't like change in big doses. be careful what you for, it
>> could be fatal.
>>
>> Frank
>
> It's interesting that you put that idea at the center, Frank. Not many
> self-styled conservatives would do so. What you're saying is the central
> principle of intellectual conservatism, and most of today's conservatives
> shove that idea to the fringes while they focus on something else --
> either the supposed stupidity of liberalism or some traditions that they
> mistakenly attribute to our founding fathers.
>
> I'll bet you've actually studied the subject, eh?
>
> --
> Ed Huntress
>
>
>
I try not to think in sound bites. Real life is a bit more fragile than that.
I do beleive that liberalism is fundementally wrong in most cases. But
conservatism is also wrong in places. Not as many, but still.
Frank
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Posted by strabo on July 23, 2008, 5:50 pm
Please log in for more thread options Gray Ghost wrote:
>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>> ... That's life. It's a struggle. We're not in control so
>>>> you better not get too comfortable in your goal of stability.
>>>>
>>>> Hawke
>>> Yes indeed the world does change but some things are always right and
>>> some things are always wrong. Stability is important, and if you folks
>>> push "change" to fast and upset the apple cart, don't be surprised if it
>>> bites you in ths ass.
>>>
>>> Much of what Obama is talking about goes beyond "change" to a
>>> fundemental altering of the social and economic fabric of the nation.
>>> Americans don't like change in big doses. be careful what you for, it
>>> could be fatal.
>>>
>>> Frank
>> It's interesting that you put that idea at the center, Frank. Not many
>> self-styled conservatives would do so. What you're saying is the central
>> principle of intellectual conservatism, and most of today's conservatives
>> shove that idea to the fringes while they focus on something else --
>> either the supposed stupidity of liberalism or some traditions that they
>> mistakenly attribute to our founding fathers.
>>
>> I'll bet you've actually studied the subject, eh?
>>
>> --
>> Ed Huntress
>>
>>
>>
>
> I try not to think in sound bites. Real life is a bit more fragile than that.
>
> I do beleive that liberalism is fundementally wrong in most cases. But
> conservatism is also wrong in places. Not as many, but still.
>
What exactly is liberalism and conservatism?
What do you think they mean to Huntress?
>
> Frank
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>running for dictator, not president. He constantly talks about the laws
>HE passed, and the LAWS HE WILL PASS AS PRESIDENT. The president
>doesn't pass laws, he signs bills into law, and if he can't grasp this
>basic concept, we are in deep shit.