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Posted by on November 7, 2009, 9:49 am
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:42:27 -0500, Cliff
>wrote:
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>>On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:41:04 -0800, All the Tea in China Blue
>>
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:28:30 -0600, Nicholas
>>>>
>>>> >On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:39:57 -0800, All the Tea in China Blue
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:13:17 -0800, All the Tea in China Blue
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:40:20 +0000 (UTC), Curly Surmudgeon
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> >On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:15:37 -0400, Cliff
>>>> >>> >> >
>>>> >>> >> ><snip>
>>>> >>> >> >> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American)
>>>> >>> >> >
>>>> >>> >> >Gummer claims to be running Linux. Forte is not available in Linux.
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> Gunner lied. That's nothing new.
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >In another group I finally found what riles up Gunner enough to
>>>> >>> >contemplate
>>>> >>> >armed rebellion: not an infringement of civil liberties but the risk
he
>>>> >>> >will
>>>> >>> >be
>>>> >>> >forced to pay his own medical bills.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Not really. Last I spoke with him via n/g he was contemplating
>>>> >>> bankruptcy. Now, considering the amount of money involved, it would
>>>> >>> have to be a Chapter 7.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> That will get him out of the fire and he can go back to living a
>>>> >>> normal life, IF he qualifies. And I'm sure he does.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Healthcare reform will force him to buy insurance instead of sticking
rest
>>>> >>of us
>>>> >>with the bill, unless he is indigient. Paying his own way? Them is
fightin
>>>> >>words.
>>>> >
>>>> >It's a bit late for that. The horses left the barn a long time
>>>> >ago...too late to shut the door on it now. He needed health insurance
>>>> >BEFORE this debacle. Getting it now is like buying fire insurance
>>>> >_after_ your house burns to the ground.
>>>> >
>>>> >Even with Chapter 7, he is still going to have a HELL of a time
>>>> >negotiating the Rules and Regulations unless he hires professional
>>>> >help, which is unlikely, since they take about 10% up front.
>>>> >
>>>> >He might be able to keep his car and home, but the rest of the stuff
>>>> >might have to go to a sheriff's auction, and I mean ALL the rest of
>>>> >the stuff, which includes his beloved Benelli.
>>>> >
>>>> >I know Illinois Law a little. I know zero about California Law.
>>>> >Maybe he can find a loophole.
>>>> >
>>>> >Nick
>>>>
>>>> Chapter 13 looks to be closer to my requirements.
>>>>
>>>> And I dont have any guns anymore. I sold them to my dad. Along with my
>>>> machinery. They are simply stored here.
>>>>
>>>> Got a bill of sale and everything.
>>>> He got one hell of a deal.
>>>
>>>If you sold below market value, IRS can consider the difference to be a gift
and
>>>taxable if large enough. And if anybody had already initiated actions against
>>>you, they are still your assets if you sold for below market value. Shuffling
>>>assets to protect them from suits is an old trick that doesn't work.
>>
>>It does when the bill of sale is from 2 yrs ago.
>>
>>Gunner
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> Written yesterday nodoubt.
>
> What a list of felonies ....
A word-record attempt for most inept fraud. In those last two years
he's written hundreds of posts describing his toys, and occasionally
offering some of them for sale. Recently he's claimed that his
machinery and guns are too hard to sell for one reason or another.
(BTW, I'm on record warning readers that he might not own what he was
trying to sell, I must be psychic <G>) So at best he's been bragging
on stuff he didn't own, and lying about the reasons he can't sell it
to pay debts. At worst it's exactly what it appears - typical
deadbeat maneuvering to stay one step ahead of the debt collectors.
Here's hoping that his unmitigated gall motivates the collectors and
that it proves his undoing.
Gotta' chuckle at the enablers here, not a peep from them. Are they
really falling for gummy's pathetic explanation for bankruptcy fraud?
I wonder if there's any lie too far-fetched for them to swallow?
Wayne
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