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Re: Liability & responsibility of electrician? StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt 07-05-2009
Posted by jk on July 11, 2009, 12:15 am
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>That's unusual. All three phases are generally on each pole in
>populated areas. Some rural areas do have only one phase distributed
>down each road. It is uncommon to have all three phases run into a
>home, though.

For SOME value of populated that may be true, but almost every where
I have lived, has only singe phase on the poles, in residential areas.
Nearest 3 ph to me is at least a half mile.


jk

Posted by JosephKK on July 10, 2009, 6:12 pm
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>>That's unusual. All three phases are generally on each pole in
>>populated areas. Some rural areas do have only one phase distributed
>>down each road. It is uncommon to have all three phases run into a
>>home, though.
>
>For SOME value of populated that may be true, but almost every where
>I have lived, has only singe phase on the poles, in residential areas.
>Nearest 3 ph to me is at least a half mile.
>
>
>jk

Depends a lot on where you live. On the street where i grew up it
could be had, but rotary converters were often cheaper. Most places i
lived in the LA area it could be had from the local pole. Where i
live now it is over 10,000 to get 3 phase.

Posted by krw on July 10, 2009, 10:33 pm
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>>
>>That's unusual. All three phases are generally on each pole in
>>populated areas. Some rural areas do have only one phase distributed
>>down each road. It is uncommon to have all three phases run into a
>>home, though.
>
>For SOME value of populated that may be true, but almost every where
>I have lived, has only singe phase on the poles, in residential areas.
>Nearest 3 ph to me is at least a half mile.
>
*Every* house I've ever lived in had 3-phase "on the pole". None had
3-phase service, though. My father wanted 3-phase service when they
built their house in '59, but the power company wanted a minimum of
$100/mo just to bring it down from the pole to the weather head.
Wasn't worth it for him to work at home.

Posted by Steve W. on July 10, 2009, 10:58 pm
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krw wrote:
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>>> That's unusual. All three phases are generally on each pole in
>>> populated areas. Some rural areas do have only one phase distributed
>>> down each road. It is uncommon to have all three phases run into a
>>> home, though.
>> For SOME value of populated that may be true, but almost every where
>> I have lived, has only singe phase on the poles, in residential areas.
>> Nearest 3 ph to me is at least a half mile.
>>
> *Every* house I've ever lived in had 3-phase "on the pole". None had
> 3-phase service, though. My father wanted 3-phase service when they
> built their house in '59, but the power company wanted a minimum of
> $100/mo just to bring it down from the pole to the weather head.
> Wasn't worth it for him to work at home.

Not true in rural areas. The normal lines around here are single phase.
There is a 3 phase line less than a mile away BUT it is a separate feed
that heads up to the school. I was very lucky because a gent toward the
end of the feed past my shop wanted 3 phase, He paid for almost 7 miles
of run. I don't even want to think of the price that cost!!! That meant
I didn't have to pay for it though.

--
Steve W.

Posted by JosephKK on July 9, 2009, 9:43 pm
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On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 08:22:24 GMT, "Harold and Susan Vordos"

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>> Doug Miller wrote:
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>>> of 3-phase delta service. I measure 243V between the two legs of my=20
>>> residential service, and I'm quite sure that it's only single-phase.
>> How ever, it is most likely originating from a 3 phase source via a
>> single phase xformer.
>>
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>It is always from a three phase source. That's the way it comes from =
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>generators, although only one leg is generally used for distribution.
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>Where I live, one leg of the three phase ran the power for everyone on =
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>how I ended up with three phase service in my shop, having had the =
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>lines extended for over two miles.
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>Harold
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That must have cost several pretty pennies.

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