Re: Prepping and painting angle iron

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Re: Prepping and painting angle iron Larry Jaques 07-04-2008
Posted by Larry Jaques on July 4, 2008, 8:39 am
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On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:54:53 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, "Leo

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>"Grant Erwin" wrote: (clip) I suggest black full gloss enamel. Gloss
>prevents rust
>> much better than semigloss, as the latter has tiny crevices in it - that's
>> how it looks less glossy. Where it's thinner, can be tiny holes that are
>> where rust starts. (clip)
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>I have no objection to gloss enamel, except: because it's shiny, it shows
>irregularities in the surface more. If you are a really good welder, this
>may not matter. But, for example, you have to grind some welds and not
>others, the difference will be emphasized. The way a semigloss finish is
>built into the paint is by the proportion of solid pigment. When the paint
>dries, the liquid part shrinks. If it shrinks enough to expose the tips of
>the pigment particles, there will be less gloss. This is not tiny crevices,
>but tiny bumps. There may be tiny pinholes in a coat of paint. When you
>apply multiple coats, you reduce the chance that a pinhole will go all the
>way from the surface to the metal. A coat of primer is probably going to
>have some pinholes, which are practically certain to be covered by the
>finish coat. The finish coat culd also have some pinholes, but there is
>very little chance that a pinhole in one coat will line up with a pinhole in
>the other coat.

Leo, it's a freakin' utility trailer, not a $45,000 classic car paint
job, fer chrissake. You don't want to hide the true nature of the
vehicle, do you?

Sheesh, and I thought _I_ was anal at times... ;)

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Posted by on July 4, 2008, 9:27 am
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> On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:54:53 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, "Leo
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> >"Grant Erwin" wrote: =A0(clip) I suggest black full gloss enamel. Gloss
> >prevents rust
> >> much better than semigloss, as the latter has tiny crevices in it - th=
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> >> how it looks less glossy. Where it's thinner, can be tiny holes that a=
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> >> where rust starts. (clip)
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> >I have no objection to gloss enamel, except: =A0because it's shiny, it s=
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> >irregularities in the surface more. =A0If you are a really good welder, =
this
> >may not matter. =A0But, for example, you have to grind some welds and no=
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> >others, the difference will be emphasized. =A0The way a semigloss finish=
is
> >built into the paint is by the proportion of solid pigment. =A0When the =
paint
> >dries, the liquid part shrinks. =A0If it shrinks enough to expose the ti=
ps of
> >the pigment particles, there will be less gloss. =A0This is not tiny cre=
vices,
> >but tiny bumps. =A0There may be tiny pinholes in a coat of paint. =A0Whe=
n you
> >apply multiple coats, you reduce the chance that a pinhole will go all t=
he
> >way from the surface to the metal. =A0A coat of primer is probably going=
to
> >have some pinholes, =A0which are practically certain to be covered by th=
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> >finish coat. =A0The finish coat culd also have some pinholes, but there =
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> >very little chance that a pinhole in one coat will line up with a pinhol=
e in
> >the other coat.
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> Leo, it's a freakin' utility trailer, not a $45,000 classic car paint
> job, fer chrissake. You don't want to hide the true nature of the
> vehicle, do you?
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> Sheesh, and I thought _I_ was anal at times... ;)
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A lot of people are like that (including myself), overkilling every
little detail on every little project to death!
As for the trailer, if it was mine, I would give it a good solvent
wash with enamel reducer or equivalent; prime with Rustoleum clean
metal primer followed by two coats of topcoat. Rustoleum holds up
well and it's priced right.

Posted by Leo Lichtman on July 4, 2008, 12:42 pm
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"Larry Jaques" wrote: Leo, it's a freakin' utility trailer, not a $45,000
classic car paint
> job, fer chrissake. You don't want to hide the true nature of the
> vehicle, do you?
>
> Sheesh, and I thought _I_ was anal at times... ;)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Larry, I didn't think I was being anal. I was trying to show off my
knowledge by "clarifying" something that was in an earlier post.

BTW, since it's a freakin' utility trailer, I wouldn't choose gloss
enamel--it just wouldn't look right. My point was that there is no down
side to using semigloss or flat paint on a trailer.



Posted by Larry Jaques on July 4, 2008, 9:09 pm
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On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:42:35 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, "Leo

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>"Larry Jaques" wrote: Leo, it's a freakin' utility trailer, not a $45,000
>classic car paint
>> job, fer chrissake. You don't want to hide the true nature of the
>> vehicle, do you?
>>
>> Sheesh, and I thought _I_ was anal at times... ;)
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Larry, I didn't think I was being anal. I was trying to show off my
>knowledge by "clarifying" something that was in an earlier post.

Well, it was a joke, but, since you're _clearly_ upset, you're
definitely anal about it. So solly. <bseg>


>BTW, since it's a freakin' utility trailer, I wouldn't choose gloss
>enamel--it just wouldn't look right. My point was that there is no down
>side to using semigloss or flat paint on a trailer.

Ever looked at a trailer store? All the steel trailers are painted
either with gloss white or gloss black enamel, with an occasional
Mexichrome (aluminum paint) one tossed in for good measure. <shrug>

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Posted by Leo Lichtman on July 6, 2008, 4:21 pm
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"Larry Jaques" wrote: Jewish Zen:
> Be here now. Be someplace else later. Is that so complicated, already?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm now t5rying to prove that I do have a sense of humor. I think that is
funny.



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