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Posted by Joseph Gwinn on May 17, 2008, 10:40 am
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> At 5:53 PM -0400 4/20/08, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
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> > I would indeed junk the grinder.
> >
> > There is too much at stake with the fast spinning wheel.
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> If the replacement nuts do solve the wobble problem, there should be no
> more than the usual problems shared by all grinders. I've ordered new
> wheel nuts from a local (to Boston) Ryobi service center, Panda
> Electric. The people at this service center have clearly had things
> apart, and understood the problem.
Well, the new arbor nuts arrived, and were duly installed. Made no
difference - the wheels still wobble badly. Time for diagnosis.
Using a 5/8" ID spring instead of the wheel, holding a flat washer
against the underside of the nut, measure wobble with a dial indicator.
On one right-hand nut, the wobble wasn't bad, so filed one face of the
nut perpendicular to the axis of rotation, to eliminate the wobble.
Tried the same on the left-hand nut. No dice. I would measure, file in
the counteracting direction, and on re-measurement the error would
increase or decrease, with no obvious pattern. Repeat. This went on
for at least an hour of growing frustration before inspiration struck -
measure the wobble as a function of how far the nut is screwed onto the
arbor.
Bingo. Even plus or minus one thread makes all the difference in the
world, varying from no wobble to 0.020" wobble. The arbor thread is
drunken! Not visibly, but enough to make the grinder useless for any
non-crude purpose. No wonder it seemed random. Reassemble grinder, put
tools away.
That grinder was good money after bad. Yet another unsolicited learning
experience.
I've written this grinder off, and am in the market for a real bench
grinder.
Joe Gwinn
PS. The left and right hand nuts came together in a bag, but so far as
I could tell no political arguments broke out.
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Posted by Ignoramus8671 on May 17, 2008, 1:55 pm
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>> At 5:53 PM -0400 4/20/08, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
>>
>> > I would indeed junk the grinder.
>> >
>> > There is too much at stake with the fast spinning wheel.
>>
>> If the replacement nuts do solve the wobble problem, there should be no
>> more than the usual problems shared by all grinders. I've ordered new
>> wheel nuts from a local (to Boston) Ryobi service center, Panda
>> Electric. The people at this service center have clearly had things
>> apart, and understood the problem.
>
> Well, the new arbor nuts arrived, and were duly installed. Made no
> difference - the wheels still wobble badly. Time for diagnosis.
>
> Using a 5/8" ID spring instead of the wheel, holding a flat washer
> against the underside of the nut, measure wobble with a dial indicator.
> On one right-hand nut, the wobble wasn't bad, so filed one face of the
> nut perpendicular to the axis of rotation, to eliminate the wobble.
>
> Tried the same on the left-hand nut. No dice. I would measure, file in
> the counteracting direction, and on re-measurement the error would
> increase or decrease, with no obvious pattern. Repeat. This went on
> for at least an hour of growing frustration before inspiration struck -
> measure the wobble as a function of how far the nut is screwed onto the
> arbor.
>
> Bingo. Even plus or minus one thread makes all the difference in the
> world, varying from no wobble to 0.020" wobble. The arbor thread is
> drunken! Not visibly, but enough to make the grinder useless for any
> non-crude purpose. No wonder it seemed random. Reassemble grinder, put
> tools away.
>
> That grinder was good money after bad. Yet another unsolicited learning
> experience.
>
> I've written this grinder off, and am in the market for a real bench
> grinder.
I have a 8" 1 HP Dayton grinder for sale, old and dirty, on a
pedestal, with shields, $30, local pickup only in N. IL, 3 phase.
i
> Joe Gwinn
>
>
> PS. The left and right hand nuts came together in a bag, but so far as
> I could tell no political arguments broke out.
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Posted by johnnytorch on May 17, 2008, 2:31 pm
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> PS. The left and right hand nuts came together in a bag, but so far as
> I could tell no political arguments broke out.
Usually its after the arguments that they get lumped together, for me
anyway.
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