Rear fold down ramp for trailer. (Is solid ok?)

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Rear fold down ramp for trailer. (Is solid ok?) stryped 04-18-2008
Posted by Al Patrick on April 19, 2008, 9:35 pm
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 stryped wrote:

>
> What other projects?

Stryped,

I *think* this is what he was driving at! IF you have not "built" any
other projects you may need to start with something with a bit less
liability risk should something go wrong.

Tell us about some of your welding repairs, especially those that held
up under hard service for a long time.

A trailer takes a real beating up and down the road hitting pot / chug
holes everywhere. A load on the trailer, the only reason for having a
trailer in the first place, increases the strains and stresses on the
steel *and welds*. Sometimes they *may* have a tendency to "fishtail"
and dance all over the road, having a tendency to flop the towing
vehicle around with its gyrations. Under these circumstances you could
very easily lose control of the towing vehicle and wind up in the ditch
- or worse, a river - with the tractor on top of you.

Several of us probably think you should build a trailer to tow behind
your riding lawn mower before you build one to haul an 8N tractor up and
down the road with.

Perhaps, in the mean time you should just buy a good factory built
trailer WITH BRAKES. ;-)

Posted by stryped on April 19, 2008, 9:54 pm
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> stryped wrote:
>
> > What other projects?
>
> Stryped,
>
> I *think* this is what he was driving at! =A0IF you have not "built" any
> other projects you may need to start with something with a bit less
> liability risk should something go wrong.
>
> Tell us about some of your welding repairs, especially those that held
> up under hard service for a long time.
>
> A trailer takes a real beating up and down the road hitting pot / chug
> holes everywhere. A load on the trailer, the only reason for having a
> trailer in the first place, increases the strains and stresses on the
> steel *and welds*. =A0Sometimes they *may* have a tendency to "fishtail"
> and dance all over the road, having a tendency to flop the towing
> vehicle around with its gyrations. =A0Under these circumstances you could
> very easily lose control of the towing vehicle and wind up in the ditch
> - or worse, a river - with the tractor on top of you.
>
> Several of us probably think you should build a trailer to tow behind
> your riding lawn mower before you build one to haul an 8N tractor up and
> down the road with.
>
> Perhaps, in the mean time you should just buy a good factory built
> trailer WITH BRAKES. =A0;-)

I am admittently a little new to arc welding. ALl my projects have
been with my 130 amp mig Hobart welder.

6 years ago just to do it I build a 12x16 shed entirely out of 2 inch
square tubing. The rood and everyrhing. It has stood up to severe
weather. I welded it with the Hobart and flux core wire.

Using the same welder I have built a tow behind sprayer trailer for my
lawn mower. I welded a side jack to my dad's trailer. Welded his
bushog.

Got mad when vandals messed with my mailbox and made one out of 3 inch
square tubing.

I am sure there were others.

Again, most of this was with mig. I have been practicing with stick.

Posted by Al Patrick on April 20, 2008, 7:36 am
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stryped wrote:

> I am admittently a little new to arc welding. ALl my projects have
> been with my 130 amp mig Hobart welder.
>
> 6 years ago just to do it I build a 12x16 shed entirely out of 2 inch
> square tubing. The rood and everyrhing. It has stood up to severe
> weather. I welded it with the Hobart and flux core wire.
>
> Using the same welder I have built a tow behind sprayer trailer for my
> lawn mower. I welded a side jack to my dad's trailer. Welded his
> bushog.
>
> Got mad when vandals messed with my mailbox and made one out of 3 inch
> square tubing.
>
> I am sure there were others.
>
> Again, most of this was with mig. I have been practicing with stick.

Stryped,

As someone already stated the mig is probably *not* heavy enough but the
buzz box would be. Get a bit more practice with the arc welder and go
for it. However, you probably should get a good set of plans or get the
two books from Northern Tool and look them over very carefully first.

Yes, you can build it 12 or 14 feet, and I think you'll like it much
better that way. The truck should be plenty heavy. Put dual axles on
it and have brakes at least on the front axle - preferably on *both* axles.

GO FOR IT!

Al

Posted by stryped on April 20, 2008, 8:44 am
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> stryped wrote:
> > I am admittently a little new to arc welding. ALl my projects have
> > been with my 130 amp mig Hobart welder.
>
> > 6 years ago just to do it I build a 12x16 shed entirely out of 2 inch
> > square tubing. The rood and everyrhing. It has stood up to severe
> > weather. I welded it with the Hobart and flux core wire.
>
> > Using the same welder I have built a tow behind sprayer trailer for my
> > lawn mower. I welded a side jack to my dad's trailer. Welded his
> > bushog.
>
> > Got mad when vandals messed with my mailbox and made one out of 3 inch
> > square tubing.
>
> > I am sure there were others.
>
> > Again, most of this was with mig. I have been practicing with stick.
>
> Stryped,
>
> As someone already stated the mig is probably *not* heavy enough but the
> buzz box would be. =A0Get a bit more practice with the arc welder and go
> for it. =A0However, you probably should get a good set of plans or get the=

> two books from Northern Tool and look them over very carefully first.
>
> Yes, you can build it 12 or 14 feet, and I think you'll like it much
> better that way. =A0The truck should be plenty heavy. =A0Put dual axles on=

> it and have brakes at least on the front axle - preferably on *both* axles=
.
>
> GO FOR IT!
>
> Al- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I think I would enjoy it more too but I am having to watch it. I am
wondering at what size/weight it would get using 4x4 tubing where I
could not handle it myself. I only have a small garage to build it in
and would have to set it out when I am done so my wife can park
inside.

How would I flip it over once it is made to determin/weld the axle(s)?

Posted by Al Patrick on April 20, 2008, 8:37 pm
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stryped wrote:

>
> I think I would enjoy it more too but I am having to watch it. I am
> wondering at what size/weight it would get using 4x4 tubing where I
> could not handle it myself. I only have a small garage to build it in
> and would have to set it out when I am done so my wife can park
> inside.
>
> How would I flip it over once it is made to determin/weld the axle(s)?

You don't happen to have a big patio under a big oak tree do you? Then
you could use a chain fall or come-a-long to lift it and flip it when
needed plus you'd have a fairly smooth surface to lay it out on. You're
going to get real tired real quick of having to move it out of the
garage so your wife can park the care in "your workshop"! ;-)

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