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Posted by Jim Wilkins on May 2, 2008, 5:37 pm
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> I found this bit at the dump. =A0It has a tapered shank & is marked "star
> - hammer - twist". =A0It has a chisel point, not a cutting lip, so it
> clearly does impact cutting & hence (?) is for masonry. =A0But it is not
> carbide tipped! =A0It has some rust, so it can't be solid carbide, can it?=
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> So, I guess the question is: is there some steel alloy that is used for
> =A0 masonry impact drilling?
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> Thanks,
> Bob
S7?
Maybe the bit is for drilling pavement.
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Posted by John Martin on May 3, 2008, 12:00 pm
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> I found this bit at the dump. =A0It has a tapered shank & is marked "star
> - hammer - twist". =A0It has a chisel point, not a cutting lip, so it
> clearly does impact cutting & hence (?) is for masonry. =A0But it is not
> carbide tipped! =A0It has some rust, so it can't be solid carbide, can it?=
>
> So, I guess the question is: is there some steel alloy that is used for
> =A0 masonry impact drilling?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
It's steel, not carbide.
The tapered shank of that bit fit into a hexagonal or octagonal
holder, maybe 6" long. The holder had a slot cut in it which allowed
you to use a wedge to remove the bit - just as in removing a Morse
taper bit. The holder was hit by a hammer, and rotated between hits.
The advantage of this over a regular star drill was that you could
have a big, solid shank on a small diameter bit. The bits were
sometimes spiral, sometimes straight.
By the way, common star drills ain't so common anymore. I needed to
hang a couple of shelves in the basement the other day. Figured 5/16"
screws would be fine, so I grabbed a box of machine screw caulking
anchors I'd had for years. Hmmm - full box. Hole size 5/8". Looked
for a 5/8" star drill. Plenty of 1/4", 3/8", 1/2", 3/4", 1" and
larger, but no 5/8". No problem, I'll just pick one up at the
hardware store. The third try - the biggest hardware store in
Portland, Maine, serves mostly commercial customers - actually had
three sizes. None of the sales people had any idea what a star drill
was, even in the store that had them. No 5/8", of course. So I ended
up using 3/8" screws, which need 3/4" holes. Now I knew why the one
box was full, and the other almost empty....
John Martin
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Posted by Gunner Asch on May 3, 2008, 7:32 pm
Please log in for more thread options On Sat, 3 May 2008 09:00:25 -0700 (PDT), John Martin
>>
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>> I found this bit at the dump. It has a tapered shank & is marked "star
>> - hammer - twist". It has a chisel point, not a cutting lip, so it
>> clearly does impact cutting & hence (?) is for masonry. But it is not
>> carbide tipped! It has some rust, so it can't be solid carbide, can it?
>>
>> So, I guess the question is: is there some steel alloy that is used for
>> masonry impact drilling?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bob
>
>It's steel, not carbide.
>
>The tapered shank of that bit fit into a hexagonal or octagonal
>holder, maybe 6" long. The holder had a slot cut in it which allowed
>you to use a wedge to remove the bit - just as in removing a Morse
>taper bit. The holder was hit by a hammer, and rotated between hits.
>The advantage of this over a regular star drill was that you could
>have a big, solid shank on a small diameter bit. The bits were
>sometimes spiral, sometimes straight.
>
>By the way, common star drills ain't so common anymore. I needed to
>hang a couple of shelves in the basement the other day. Figured 5/16"
>screws would be fine, so I grabbed a box of machine screw caulking
>anchors I'd had for years. Hmmm - full box. Hole size 5/8". Looked
>for a 5/8" star drill. Plenty of 1/4", 3/8", 1/2", 3/4", 1" and
>larger, but no 5/8". No problem, I'll just pick one up at the
>hardware store. The third try - the biggest hardware store in
>Portland, Maine, serves mostly commercial customers - actually had
>three sizes. None of the sales people had any idea what a star drill
>was, even in the store that had them. No 5/8", of course. So I ended
>up using 3/8" screws, which need 3/4" holes. Now I knew why the one
>box was full, and the other almost empty....
>
>John Martin
My "ground rod driver" is an elderly Black and Decker hammer "drill"
No rotary motion at all, but simply bangbangbang. It came with a full
compliment of star drills and holders as well as the holders that you
grab and turn.
Works as good as a rivet gun for driving ground rods
$10 at an estate sale. In the factory metal box with all the
accessories
Gunner
Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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Posted by Martin H. Eastburn on May 3, 2008, 9:26 pm
Please log in for more thread options If I had a SDS+ to heavy pipe - then mine would be also.
It is - ugh - drill or drill-hammer.
Put the pipe over the rod to protect the 'head' of the rod
and the pipe would keep you on the target.
It would be nice to have SDS hammer only - as there are some nice
spades and spears for digging and breakup of small stuff.
The heavy spade would be great to dig in hard clay.
Martin
Martin H. Eastburn
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TSRA, Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
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Gunner Asch wrote:
> On Sat, 3 May 2008 09:00:25 -0700 (PDT), John Martin
>
>>>
http://home.comcast.net/~bobengelhardt/drill1.jpg(37kB)http://home.comcast.net/~bobengelhardt/drill2.jpg(43kB)
>>>
>>> I found this bit at the dump. It has a tapered shank & is marked "star
>>> - hammer - twist". It has a chisel point, not a cutting lip, so it
>>> clearly does impact cutting & hence (?) is for masonry. But it is not
>>> carbide tipped! It has some rust, so it can't be solid carbide, can it?
>>>
>>> So, I guess the question is: is there some steel alloy that is used for
>>> masonry impact drilling?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bob
>> It's steel, not carbide.
>>
>> The tapered shank of that bit fit into a hexagonal or octagonal
>> holder, maybe 6" long. The holder had a slot cut in it which allowed
>> you to use a wedge to remove the bit - just as in removing a Morse
>> taper bit. The holder was hit by a hammer, and rotated between hits.
>> The advantage of this over a regular star drill was that you could
>> have a big, solid shank on a small diameter bit. The bits were
>> sometimes spiral, sometimes straight.
>>
>> By the way, common star drills ain't so common anymore. I needed to
>> hang a couple of shelves in the basement the other day. Figured 5/16"
>> screws would be fine, so I grabbed a box of machine screw caulking
>> anchors I'd had for years. Hmmm - full box. Hole size 5/8". Looked
>> for a 5/8" star drill. Plenty of 1/4", 3/8", 1/2", 3/4", 1" and
>> larger, but no 5/8". No problem, I'll just pick one up at the
>> hardware store. The third try - the biggest hardware store in
>> Portland, Maine, serves mostly commercial customers - actually had
>> three sizes. None of the sales people had any idea what a star drill
>> was, even in the store that had them. No 5/8", of course. So I ended
>> up using 3/8" screws, which need 3/4" holes. Now I knew why the one
>> box was full, and the other almost empty....
>>
>> John Martin
>
>
> My "ground rod driver" is an elderly Black and Decker hammer "drill"
> No rotary motion at all, but simply bangbangbang. It came with a full
> compliment of star drills and holders as well as the holders that you
> grab and turn.
>
> Works as good as a rivet gun for driving ground rods
>
> $10 at an estate sale. In the factory metal box with all the
> accessories
>
>
> Gunner
>
> Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
> illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
> unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
> proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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