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Posted by Terry Keeley on April 8, 2008, 11:47 am
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Have some 0.030" 6Al-4V sheet I'd like to harden for my model boats, came
across this, does it sound right?:
If the material is plate or strip, then the solutionize temperature is
lowered to approximatly 1650F to 1675F. This is than followed by a water
quench. The aging procedure is by artificial means by precipitation
treatment at a temperature in the range of 900F to 1100F and a soak time at
temperature of between 4 to 8 hours (depending on cross sectional thickness)
It is critically important that the furnace hearth and walls be clean and
free from foreign matter such as scale from steel treatment. In fact, do not
use the furnace for process both steel and Ti alloys.
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Posted by Ed Huntress on April 8, 2008, 1:21 pm
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> Have some 0.030" 6Al-4V sheet I'd like to harden for my model boats, came
> across this, does it sound right?:
>
> If the material is plate or strip, then the solutionize temperature is
> lowered to approximatly 1650F to 1675F. This is than followed by a water
> quench. The aging procedure is by artificial means by precipitation
> treatment at a temperature in the range of 900F to 1100F and a soak time
> at temperature of between 4 to 8 hours (depending on cross sectional
> thickness) It is critically important that the furnace hearth and walls be
> clean and free from foreign matter such as scale from steel treatment. In
> fact, do not use the furnace for process both steel and Ti alloys.
The times and temperatures sound about right, but I know nothing about the
cleanliness issue. If someone doesn't have an answer for you, ask again, and
I'll look it up. I have the ASM book that covers the subject.
--
Ed Huntress
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Posted by woodworker88 on April 8, 2008, 2:20 pm
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> > Have some 0.030" 6Al-4V sheet I'd like to harden for my model boats, came
> > across this, does it sound right?:
>
> > If the material is plate or strip, then the solutionize temperature is
> > lowered to approximatly 1650F to 1675F. This is than followed by a water
> > quench. The aging procedure is by artificial means by precipitation
> > treatment at a temperature in the range of 900F to 1100F and a soak time
> > at temperature of between 4 to 8 hours (depending on cross sectional
> > thickness) It is critically important that the furnace hearth and walls be
> > clean and free from foreign matter such as scale from steel treatment. In
> > fact, do not use the furnace for process both steel and Ti alloys.
>
> The times and temperatures sound about right, but I know nothing about the
> cleanliness issue. If someone doesn't have an answer for you, ask again, and
> I'll look it up. I have the ASM book that covers the subject.
>
> --
> Ed Huntress
I don't know about the times and temperatures, but I know that work on
Ti alloys at elevated temperatures demand scrupulous cleanliness.
Most heat treating and welding of Ti alloys is done in inert
atmospheres. They sell a stainless steel heat treating wrap that is
used to prevent oxidation in the heat treating furnace. This might be
a good product to try. I see it listed in nearly every major tool
catalog.
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Posted by Terry Keeley on April 8, 2008, 3:59 pm
Please log in for more thread options Thanks for the replys!
I have some of those SS bags for heat-treating but didn't have much luck
last time tried to use them, was concerned about the part cooling while I
opened the bag to get it to quench (at 1650F!).
Anyone got any tips? Do you put a match in with the part to "burn" the air
inside?
>>
>> > Have some 0.030" 6Al-4V sheet I'd like to harden for my model boats,
>> > came
>> > across this, does it sound right?:
>>
>> > If the material is plate or strip, then the solutionize temperature is
>> > lowered to approximatly 1650F to 1675F. This is than followed by a
>> > water
>> > quench. The aging procedure is by artificial means by precipitation
>> > treatment at a temperature in the range of 900F to 1100F and a soak
>> > time
>> > at temperature of between 4 to 8 hours (depending on cross sectional
>> > thickness) It is critically important that the furnace hearth and walls
>> > be
>> > clean and free from foreign matter such as scale from steel treatment.
>> > In
>> > fact, do not use the furnace for process both steel and Ti alloys.
>>
>> The times and temperatures sound about right, but I know nothing about
>> the
>> cleanliness issue. If someone doesn't have an answer for you, ask again,
>> and
>> I'll look it up. I have the ASM book that covers the subject.
>>
>> --
>> Ed Huntress
>
> I don't know about the times and temperatures, but I know that work on
> Ti alloys at elevated temperatures demand scrupulous cleanliness.
> Most heat treating and welding of Ti alloys is done in inert
> atmospheres. They sell a stainless steel heat treating wrap that is
> used to prevent oxidation in the heat treating furnace. This might be
> a good product to try. I see it listed in nearly every major tool
> catalog.
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Posted by Terry Keeley on April 9, 2008, 2:34 pm
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> Thanks for the replys!
>
> I have some of those SS bags for heat-treating but didn't have much luck
> last time tried to use them, was concerned about the part cooling while I
> opened the bag to get it to quench (at 1650F!).
>
> Anyone got any tips? Do you put a match in with the part to "burn" the
> air inside?
>
>
>
>
>>>
>>> > Have some 0.030" 6Al-4V sheet I'd like to harden for my model boats,
>>> > came
>>> > across this, does it sound right?:
>>>
>>> > If the material is plate or strip, then the solutionize temperature is
>>> > lowered to approximatly 1650F to 1675F. This is than followed by a
>>> > water
>>> > quench. The aging procedure is by artificial means by precipitation
>>> > treatment at a temperature in the range of 900F to 1100F and a soak
>>> > time
>>> > at temperature of between 4 to 8 hours (depending on cross sectional
>>> > thickness) It is critically important that the furnace hearth and
>>> > walls be
>>> > clean and free from foreign matter such as scale from steel treatment.
>>> > In
>>> > fact, do not use the furnace for process both steel and Ti alloys.
>>>
>>> The times and temperatures sound about right, but I know nothing about
>>> the
>>> cleanliness issue. If someone doesn't have an answer for you, ask again,
>>> and
>>> I'll look it up. I have the ASM book that covers the subject.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ed Huntress
>>
>> I don't know about the times and temperatures, but I know that work on
>> Ti alloys at elevated temperatures demand scrupulous cleanliness.
>> Most heat treating and welding of Ti alloys is done in inert
>> atmospheres. They sell a stainless steel heat treating wrap that is
>> used to prevent oxidation in the heat treating furnace. This might be
>> a good product to try. I see it listed in nearly every major tool
>> catalog.
>
>
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> across this, does it sound right?:
>
> If the material is plate or strip, then the solutionize temperature is
> lowered to approximatly 1650F to 1675F. This is than followed by a water
> quench. The aging procedure is by artificial means by precipitation
> treatment at a temperature in the range of 900F to 1100F and a soak time
> at temperature of between 4 to 8 hours (depending on cross sectional
> thickness) It is critically important that the furnace hearth and walls be
> clean and free from foreign matter such as scale from steel treatment. In
> fact, do not use the furnace for process both steel and Ti alloys.