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Posted by RoyJ on April 5, 2008, 10:43 pm
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Not true for utility trailer classification in various states including
Minnesota. We get a permanent registration, no license plate, and no
title for the smaller trailers. Larger ones go by the usual interstate
rules.
Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 07:23:06 -0500, Ignoramus20845
>
>>>>
http://cgi.ebay.com/UTILITY-TRAILER_W0QQitemZ290217745823QQihZ019QQcategoryZ95495QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>>
>>>> Very smart concept.
>>> "Bill of sale only" - my translation WARNING: He doesn't have a
>>> title slip, and may not have clear title. Do a little Caveat Emptor
>>> and find out for sure before spending money...
>> Many states do not require a title for a utility trailer. You state laws may
>> vary!
>
> You cause the State to generate and issue a Certificate of Title and
> a state-assigned VIN when you register a homemade trailer and present
> receipts/bills of sale for the axle and other major components.
>
> And you cause the State to generate and issue a Certificate of Title
> when you register a factory built trailer and present a receipt or BOS
> for the purchase of the trailer, the trailer manufacturer is supposed
> to have already assigned a VIN number per Federal MVSS - and judging
> from the maker's decals on the tailgate that's a factory made trailer.
>
> This is all spelled out in interstate compacts on motor vehicle
> registration and titling, drivers licenses, etc. All states do it
> roughly the same way so a drivers license, vehicle registration or
> Certificate Of Title from one state can be automatically accepted in
> all states. Otherwise the paperwork you'd need to generate when you
> make a simple move across state lines would be frightening.
>
> Now if that trailer was operated off-road only and never titled and
> registered for the road, or the seller was in a state that didn't
> require registration of utility trailers (highly doubtful there are
> many left, that's revenue they are throwing away) I can see where it
> could be perfectly legit selling it without a proper title. But the
> seller would have a BOS from the trailer builder (or sales lot) to
> him, and more receipts if he wasn't the original buyer... Just a
> single BOS from the 'seller in possession to you would not be enough
> IMHO, there is no chain of custody proven.
>
> It's still a big red flag that requires further investigation before
> you send them a cashiers check. It's trivial to steal a trailer and
> warm up Photoshop to generate a fake bill of sale.
>
> You pay your money for the trailer in good faith and go to register
> it, and the VIN number comes up as stolen on the other side of the
> country. Say bye-bye to your money, and probably the trailer too.
>
> --<< Bruce >>--
>
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Posted by Al Patrick on April 5, 2008, 9:34 am
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Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 07:23:06 -0500, Ignoramus20845
>
>>
http://cgi.ebay.com/UTILITY-TRAILER_W0QQitemZ290217745823QQihZ019QQcategoryZ95495QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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>> Very smart concept.
>>
>> i
>
> "Bill of sale only" - my translation WARNING: He doesn't have a
> title slip, and may not have clear title. Do a little Caveat Emptor
> and find out for sure before spending money...
>
> Other than that, a drop bed trailer. I've seen them done better,
> and with less risky drop suspension designs.
>
> --<< Bruce >>--
>
Seems it would be very hard on the hydraulics as well. O-rings probably really
take a beating! Wonder how often the hydraulics have to be rebuilt....
In NC they usually stamp the serial number on the axle. What axle . . . In this
case? Don't know where the Ser.# would go.
Can you imagine going down the highway at 70 mph, hitting a bump and rupturing
an "O" ring?
A few months back I was going down I-85 and saw an 18-wheeler dragging his lift
gate. He pulled over and a couple hours later I came back by. A DOT vehicle was
there. To help? To inspect the vehicle? Who knows! Hydraulics do go out,
thankfully the "let down" is not always instantaneous.
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Posted by Backlash on April 5, 2008, 12:22 pm
Please log in for more thread options My experiences:
In NC, the numbers are required on the right rear of the axle, to be visible
when looking under the trailer from the rear, and also as close as possible
to the hitch area on the tongue of the trailer.
A homebuilt trailer number has to be applied for, usually beginning with
NCXxxxxxxx. Then that number is stamped in both places, and any law
enforcement officer can sign off on the form to verify it is indeed, a home
constructed unit, not stolen factory units. Used to be able to stamp a plate
and weld it on, now I hear the numbers have to be stamped into the parent
metal. I haven't had to blaze a title lately, though, so haven't verified
this latest.
RJ
> Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
>> On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 07:23:06 -0500, Ignoramus20845
>>
>>>
http://cgi.ebay.com/UTILITY-TRAILER_W0QQitemZ290217745823QQihZ019QQcategoryZ95495QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>
>>> Very smart concept.
>>>
>>> i
>>
>> "Bill of sale only" - my translation WARNING: He doesn't have a
>> title slip, and may not have clear title. Do a little Caveat Emptor
>> and find out for sure before spending money... Other than that, a drop
>> bed trailer. I've seen them done better,
>> and with less risky drop suspension designs.
>>
>> --<< Bruce >>--
>>
>
> Seems it would be very hard on the hydraulics as well. O-rings probably
> really take a beating! Wonder how often the hydraulics have to be
> rebuilt....
>
> In NC they usually stamp the serial number on the axle. What axle . . .
> In this case? Don't know where the Ser.# would go.
>
> Can you imagine going down the highway at 70 mph, hitting a bump and
> rupturing an "O" ring?
>
> A few months back I was going down I-85 and saw an 18-wheeler dragging his
> lift gate. He pulled over and a couple hours later I came back by. A DOT
> vehicle was there. To help? To inspect the vehicle? Who knows!
> Hydraulics do go out, thankfully the "let down" is not always
> instantaneous.
>
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Posted by Ignoramus14041 on April 5, 2008, 1:09 pm
Please log in for more thread options > My experiences:
>
> In NC, the numbers are required on the right rear of the axle, to be visible
> when looking under the trailer from the rear, and also as close as possible
> to the hitch area on the tongue of the trailer.
>
> A homebuilt trailer number has to be applied for, usually beginning with
> NCXxxxxxxx. Then that number is stamped in both places, and any law
> enforcement officer can sign off on the form to verify it is indeed, a home
> constructed unit, not stolen factory units. Used to be able to stamp a plate
> and weld it on, now I hear the numbers have to be stamped into the parent
> metal. I haven't had to blaze a title lately, though, so haven't verified
> this latest.
For my trailer, all I had to do is swear that I built it. No one even
looked at it. I keep copies of receipts for parts, in the box mounted
on the trailer, just in case.
i
> RJ
>
>> Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
>>> On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 07:23:06 -0500, Ignoramus20845
>>>
>>>>
http://cgi.ebay.com/UTILITY-TRAILER_W0QQitemZ290217745823QQihZ019QQcategoryZ95495QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>>
>>>> Very smart concept.
>>>>
>>>> i
>>>
>>> "Bill of sale only" - my translation WARNING: He doesn't have a
>>> title slip, and may not have clear title. Do a little Caveat Emptor
>>> and find out for sure before spending money... Other than that, a drop
>>> bed trailer. I've seen them done better,
>>> and with less risky drop suspension designs.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Seems it would be very hard on the hydraulics as well. O-rings probably
>> really take a beating! Wonder how often the hydraulics have to be
>> rebuilt....
>>
>> In NC they usually stamp the serial number on the axle. What axle . . .
>> In this case? Don't know where the Ser.# would go.
>>
>> Can you imagine going down the highway at 70 mph, hitting a bump and
>> rupturing an "O" ring?
>>
>> A few months back I was going down I-85 and saw an 18-wheeler dragging his
>> lift gate. He pulled over and a couple hours later I came back by. A DOT
>> vehicle was there. To help? To inspect the vehicle? Who knows!
>> Hydraulics do go out, thankfully the "let down" is not always
>> instantaneous.
>>
>
>
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Posted by Tom on April 5, 2008, 4:39 pm
Please log in for more thread options Al Patrick wrote:
> Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 07:23:06 -0500, Ignoramus20845
>>
>>>
http://cgi.ebay.com/UTILITY-TRAILER_W0QQitemZ290217745823QQihZ019QQcategoryZ95495QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>
>>>
>>> Very smart concept.
>>>
>>> i
>>
>>
>> "Bill of sale only" - my translation WARNING: He doesn't have a
>> title slip, and may not have clear title. Do a little Caveat Emptor
>> and find out for sure before spending money...
>> Other than that, a drop bed trailer. I've seen them done better,
>> and with less risky drop suspension designs.
>>
>> --<< Bruce >>--
>>
>
> Seems it would be very hard on the hydraulics as well. O-rings probably
> really take a beating! Wonder how often the hydraulics have to be
> rebuilt....
>
> In NC they usually stamp the serial number on the axle. What axle . . .
> In this case? Don't know where the Ser.# would go.
>
> Can you imagine going down the highway at 70 mph, hitting a bump and
> rupturing an "O" ring?
>
If you had a good look at the pix you would see that there is a swing
down stop on both sides that takes the load off the hydraulics in the
travel height position.
Tom
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