Wilton tradesman vise vs. HF 5655

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Wilton tradesman vise vs. HF 5655 Ignoramus6291 03-25-2008
Posted by Ignoramus6291 on March 25, 2008, 2:36 pm
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Example:

Comparing this wilton vise:

http://www.amazon.com/Wilton-63201-2-Inch-Opening-Tradesman/dp/B00004XPVI

with

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=5655

(I have the latter). Would you say that the Wilton vise is in some
measurable way better? The Harbor Freight vise, so far, did not give
me many problems.

i

Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on March 25, 2008, 2:45 pm
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> Example:
>
> Comparing this wilton vise:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Wilton-63201-2-Inch-Opening-
Tradesman/dp/B00004XPVI
>
> with
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=5655
>
> (I have the latter). Would you say that the Wilton vise is in some
> measurable way better? The Harbor Freight vise, so far, did not give
> me many problems.


I would (have said), earlier in my life; mostly, because you could be
sure they used a good alloy suitable to the purpose.

Now, I'm not so sure. I've looked at Wilton vises in stores over the
last few years. Most have "China" stamped or cast somewhere on them, or
in the documentation, and that makes me not trust the alloys.

If you're getting Chinalloy, you're getting Chinalloy. It doesn't take
much to bust it.

I have not seen a decent vise I could afford in quite a few years. That
particular Wilton looks awfully attractive, but I'd want to make sure
it's not another off-shore ripoff.

LLoyd



Posted by Ignoramus6291 on March 25, 2008, 2:48 pm
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On 2008-03-25, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> Example:
>>
>> Comparing this wilton vise:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Wilton-63201-2-Inch-Opening-
> Tradesman/dp/B00004XPVI
>>
>> with
>>
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=5655
>>
>> (I have the latter). Would you say that the Wilton vise is in some
>> measurable way better? The Harbor Freight vise, so far, did not give
>> me many problems.
>
>
> I would (have said), earlier in my life; mostly, because you could be
> sure they used a good alloy suitable to the purpose.
>
> Now, I'm not so sure. I've looked at Wilton vises in stores over the
> last few years. Most have "China" stamped or cast somewhere on them, or
> in the documentation, and that makes me not trust the alloys.
>
> If you're getting Chinalloy, you're getting Chinalloy. It doesn't take
> much to bust it.
>
> I have not seen a decent vise I could afford in quite a few years. That
> particular Wilton looks awfully attractive, but I'd want to make sure
> it's not another off-shore ripoff.

Those particular Wilton vises, supposedly, are USA made.

i

Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on March 25, 2008, 3:06 pm
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> Those particular Wilton vises, supposedly, are USA made.

All they have to do is assemble the parts and paint them in the US to say
that.

LLoyd

Posted by Larry Jaques on March 25, 2008, 8:19 pm
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:45:52 -0000, with neither quill nor qualm,
"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> quickly quoth:

>
>> Example:
>>
>> Comparing this wilton vise:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Wilton-63201-2-Inch-Opening-
>Tradesman/dp/B00004XPVI
>>
>> with
>>
>> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=5655
>>
>> (I have the latter). Would you say that the Wilton vise is in some
>> measurable way better? The Harbor Freight vise, so far, did not give
>> me many problems.
>
>
>I would (have said), earlier in my life; mostly, because you could be
>sure they used a good alloy suitable to the purpose.
>
>Now, I'm not so sure. I've looked at Wilton vises in stores over the
>last few years. Most have "China" stamped or cast somewhere on them, or
>in the documentation, and that makes me not trust the alloys.
>
>If you're getting Chinalloy, you're getting Chinalloy. It doesn't take
>much to bust it.

I've been beating on my 6" Chinalloy vise from HF for over 30 years
now and I've had no problems with it. I frequently use all 200 lbs on
the bar to secure things, too. No big.


>I have not seen a decent vise I could afford in quite a few years. That
>particular Wilton looks awfully attractive, but I'd want to make sure
>it's not another off-shore ripoff.

I'm sure the Wilton is a fine vise, but I'd not be willing to pay that
extra for a U.S. casting. For the price difference, I'd buy a $30-60
HF and return it if it breaks. YMMV

Check auctions if you want a US-made Wilton. The shop closings in
schools have them out there. eBay has had many listings for them in
the past, too. Here ya go. It's up to $58 with 5 days to go.
http://tinyurl.com/yrf5mp Can you handle 8 inches? <snicker>

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