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how do you edge find Karl Townsend 07-22-2008
Posted by RoyJ on July 24, 2008, 12:23 am
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I just had to jump in with a mildly off topic response: Yesterday I was
showing a student how the edge finder did the 'jump' when it contacted
the surface (and the usual discussion about the .0005" to .001"
difference from the 'real' edge) when the jump went the wrong direction.
!!@##@!!! I had been running it in reverse! cue to very red faced
instructor.

Karl Townsend wrote:
> There's been a role reversal at my place...
>
> Whenever "The Kid" is home, I watch him machine to learn. he edge found a
> part (in 15 seconds!) by flicking the edgefinder to make it wobble and then
> turning the crank till it was on center.
>
> I've always cranked till the finder "kicks" to one side. I don't have his
> accurate eye sight and feel to do it that way. My results weren't as
> repeatable ( I tried after he left) so I'm back to the "kick"
>
> Karl
>
>

Posted by on July 24, 2008, 1:41 am
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> I just had to jump in with a mildly off topic response: Yesterday I was
> showing a student how the edge finder did the 'jump' when it contacted
> the surface (and the usual discussion about the .0005" to .001"
> difference from the 'real' edge) when the jump went the wrong direction.
> !!@##@!!! I had been running it in reverse! cue to very red faced
> instructor.

Was it a Bridgeport? - the ones at my college do that, when you go
from H to L range, on one of them you need to reverse the motor.....I
have to work it out each time.....why its done that way, no idea......

Andrew VK3BFA.

Posted by Jon Elson on July 24, 2008, 1:45 pm
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vk3bfa@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>I just had to jump in with a mildly off topic response: Yesterday I was
>>showing a student how the edge finder did the 'jump' when it contacted
>>the surface (and the usual discussion about the .0005" to .001"
>>difference from the 'real' edge) when the jump went the wrong direction.
>> !!@##@!!! I had been running it in reverse! cue to very red faced
>>instructor.
>
>
> Was it a Bridgeport? - the ones at my college do that, when you go
> from H to L range, on one of them you need to reverse the motor.....I
> have to work it out each time.....why its done that way, no idea......
It's just the way the back gear train works. A lathe back gear inserts
two reversals, so the spindle ends up going the same way. The
Bridgeport uses a belt drive to turn the back gear, so engaging the gear
only inserts one gear train reversal, so the spindle ends up running the
other direction. You get used to it if you use it often.

Jon


Posted by Jon Elson on July 24, 2008, 1:43 pm
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RoyJ wrote:
> I just had to jump in with a mildly off topic response: Yesterday I was
> showing a student how the edge finder did the 'jump' when it contacted
> the surface (and the usual discussion about the .0005" to .001"
> difference from the 'real' edge) when the jump went the wrong direction.
> !!@##@!!! I had been running it in reverse! cue to very red faced
> instructor.
What's the diff? An edge finder is just about the only thing you'll
ever put
in a machine tool spindle that doesn't care which way it is turning.

Jon


Posted by Errol Groff on July 24, 2008, 7:20 pm
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:24:43 -0500, "Karl Townsend"

>There's been a role reversal at my place...
>
>Whenever "The Kid" is home, I watch him machine to learn. he edge found a
>part (in 15 seconds!) by flicking the edgefinder to make it wobble and then
>turning the crank till it was on center.
>
>I've always cranked till the finder "kicks" to one side. I don't have his
>accurate eye sight and feel to do it that way. My results weren't as
>repeatable ( I tried after he left) so I'm back to the "kick"
>
>Karl
>

I can't see why it would make any difference to the edge finder which
way the spindle is turning. Other than if you are used to seeing it
kick in one direction it would be disconcerting to have iti kick the
opposite way.

As to which way the spindle turns in high or low range I tell my
students at least a zillion time a year LOOK at the tool when you
start the spindle. Then you will SEE which way it is going. Saves on
end mills and drill points to know which way the tool (spindle) is
turning.

Errol Groff



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