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master cylinder finish T.Alan Kraus 03-06-2008
Posted by T.Alan Kraus on March 6, 2008, 1:03 pm
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What is the usual finish for hydraulic master cylinders internal bores.
Say a brake master cylinder. Would reaming be good enough? Material is 303

cheers
T.Alan

Posted by Rex on March 6, 2008, 5:51 pm
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T.Alan Kraus wrote:
> What is the usual finish for hydraulic master cylinders internal bores.
> Say a brake master cylinder. Would reaming be good enough? Material is 303

Considering a brake hone uses stones of about 320 grit, I expect reaming
would be OK

Posted by woodworker88 on March 7, 2008, 1:37 am
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> What is the usual finish for hydraulic master cylinders internal bores.
> Say a brake master cylinder. Would reaming be good enough? Material is 303
>
> cheers
> T.Alan

Usually they are honed with a Sunnen hone. Usually the point is to
remove any striations or rings (lines going either along the length of
the cylinder or around the bore).

Posted by Rex on March 7, 2008, 10:00 am
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woodworker88 wrote:
>> What is the usual finish for hydraulic master cylinders internal bores.
>> Say a brake master cylinder. Would reaming be good enough? Material is 303
>>
>> cheers
>> T.Alan
>
> Usually they are honed with a Sunnen hone. Usually the point is to
> remove any striations or rings (lines going either along the length of
> the cylinder or around the bore).

Well, yes, but a certain fine finish is desirable, and a mirror finish
is not.

Posted by T.Alan Kraus on March 7, 2008, 12:57 pm
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Rex wrote:
> woodworker88 wrote:
>
>>
>>> What is the usual finish for hydraulic master cylinders internal bores.
>>> Say a brake master cylinder. Would reaming be good enough? Material
>>> is 303
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> T.Alan
>>
>>
>> Usually they are honed with a Sunnen hone. Usually the point is to
>> remove any striations or rings (lines going either along the length of
>> the cylinder or around the bore).
>
>
> Well, yes, but a certain fine finish is desirable, and a mirror finish
> is not.

Yes I researched that and found out that there are two issues at play.
One is the obvious piston seal deterioration by friction with a rough
bore surface, the other is an increased stiction for the o ring seal
when the bore surface is too smooth. These two issues work against each
other and there is a happy medium. Somewhere I saw the figure of 20
micro inches or an Ra of 5. Can anyone confirm or shoot this down?

cheers
T.Alan

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