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Posted by Don Foreman on May 4, 2006, 10:41 pm
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After successfully removing two puzzlenuts with the shop-made key, the
key failed on the third one. Sheared the rods right off. Mmm. Rods
were made of 1/8 mild steel rod. Made new key from the previous
drawing, using drillrod this time.
Then it started raining for several days. It finally stopped
yesterday.
Weather ain't great, but it ain't raining and I no longer need a canoe
or waders to go in the back yard, so time to remove the last
puzzlenut.
Pull boat out of boat tent. Assemble tools. Tap new snug-fitting
tool onto last puzzlenut with deadblow hammer until it goes bang
rather than thud. I did say snug fit, right?
OK, it's fully seated. Assemble socket, ratchet, and 24" cheater
(old Rabbit front driveshaft), place on puzzlenut tool, mutter
invocation to St. Erho, start applying steadily increasing
pressure on yonder end of the cheater bar. The truck and trailer
rolled backwards a bit. Leaned a bit harder.
SNAP! Snap? I didn't plan on snap, what's with the snap, I mused
curiously. I muttered the ancient Celtic word for "curious" which
has rather different connations in modern English......that's my story
and I'm stickin' to it.
The welds between the hex part and the key had snapped. Mmmm. My
welds failed. This does not happen in real life. Leprechauns named
Murphy have been dancing in my back yard. Now I gotta get that
muthuh off of there, hadn't planned on that.
Large visegrip, couple of sideways taps to rock it a bit, a little
prying with large screwdriver, thoop! Came off without a fight. Snug
fit, nyaahh! Drillrods within are pristine and laughing at me.
Bring bits into shop, fit together, fire up the TIG and weld the
snot out of it. All the way round this time, puhlenty of heat, used
ER70S-6 filler this time. If it's good enough for airframe welding,
it oughta be good enough for this job. Puddle the size of a 12D
nailhead, probably at least as deep as its radius. Got me some
penetration, and generous fillet build as well. Tossed it in the
water bucket to maybe lightly heat-treat the drillrods within.
Go back out, tap tool onto puzzlenut until it goes bang rather than
thud. Just 3 light taps this time. Assemble tools, start leaning
on the yonder end of the cheater. Truck and trailer start rolling.
Keep increasing the torque. Hello, the cheaterbar is still moving
but the truck and trailer are no longer rolling! YESSS!!!!
A few strokes later, I'm looking at a bare stud, mercifully not a
sheared off stud. Man, it hadda be close -- I've sheared off 3/4"
bumper bolts with that kinda torque. Those studs must be some kinda
robust steel. Smear a bit of anti-sieze on the stud, wind on new
puzzlenut to about 60 lbf-ft of torque, replace hub cover, put new key
in the captive mesh bag in the tacklebox locker, lock the hatch,
back boat back into tent with big grin.
Gee, it only took me two or three weeks to get that nut off -- but I
got 'er done as they say. Sure glad I decided to get that leaky tire
fixed in my backyard rather than alongside a road somewhere.
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Posted by Karl Townsend on May 5, 2006, 7:28 am
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dis is on da boat fer goin' up Nort'? You better get her out on the lake
real quick and check her all over real good. There's only a week until
OPENER!!!!
--
<(©¿©)> An apple a day keeps the doctor away.
Two apples a day gets the doctor's OK.
Five a day makes you a fruit grower like me.
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Posted by Jeff Wisnia on May 5, 2006, 11:02 am
Please log in for more thread options Don Foreman wrote:
> After successfully removing two puzzlenuts with the shop-made key, the
> key failed on the third one. Sheared the rods right off. Mmm. Rods
> were made of 1/8 mild steel rod. Made new key from the previous
> drawing, using drillrod this time.
>
> Then it started raining for several days. It finally stopped
> yesterday.
>
> Weather ain't great, but it ain't raining and I no longer need a canoe
> or waders to go in the back yard, so time to remove the last
> puzzlenut.
>
> Pull boat out of boat tent. Assemble tools. Tap new snug-fitting
> tool onto last puzzlenut with deadblow hammer until it goes bang
> rather than thud. I did say snug fit, right?
> OK, it's fully seated. Assemble socket, ratchet, and 24" cheater
> (old Rabbit front driveshaft), place on puzzlenut tool, mutter
> invocation to St. Erho, start applying steadily increasing
> pressure on yonder end of the cheater bar. The truck and trailer
> rolled backwards a bit. Leaned a bit harder.
>
> SNAP! Snap? I didn't plan on snap, what's with the snap, I mused
> curiously. I muttered the ancient Celtic word for "curious" which
> has rather different connations in modern English......that's my story
> and I'm stickin' to it.
>
> The welds between the hex part and the key had snapped. Mmmm. My
> welds failed. This does not happen in real life. Leprechauns named
> Murphy have been dancing in my back yard. Now I gotta get that
> muthuh off of there, hadn't planned on that.
>
> Large visegrip, couple of sideways taps to rock it a bit, a little
> prying with large screwdriver, thoop! Came off without a fight. Snug
> fit, nyaahh! Drillrods within are pristine and laughing at me.
> Bring bits into shop, fit together, fire up the TIG and weld the
> snot out of it. All the way round this time, puhlenty of heat, used
> ER70S-6 filler this time. If it's good enough for airframe welding,
> it oughta be good enough for this job. Puddle the size of a 12D
> nailhead, probably at least as deep as its radius. Got me some
> penetration, and generous fillet build as well. Tossed it in the
> water bucket to maybe lightly heat-treat the drillrods within.
>
> Go back out, tap tool onto puzzlenut until it goes bang rather than
> thud. Just 3 light taps this time. Assemble tools, start leaning
> on the yonder end of the cheater. Truck and trailer start rolling.
> Keep increasing the torque. Hello, the cheaterbar is still moving
> but the truck and trailer are no longer rolling! YESSS!!!!
>
> A few strokes later, I'm looking at a bare stud, mercifully not a
> sheared off stud. Man, it hadda be close -- I've sheared off 3/4"
> bumper bolts with that kinda torque. Those studs must be some kinda
> robust steel. Smear a bit of anti-sieze on the stud, wind on new
> puzzlenut to about 60 lbf-ft of torque, replace hub cover, put new key
> in the captive mesh bag in the tacklebox locker, lock the hatch,
> back boat back into tent with big grin.
>
> Gee, it only took me two or three weeks to get that nut off -- but I
> got 'er done as they say. Sure glad I decided to get that leaky tire
> fixed in my backyard rather than alongside a road somewhere.
Is what looks like a washer under the nut in your first photo just that,
there to span the gap because the puzzlenut has a closed end?
Didja try flooding the area with Kroil at any point in the exercise?
Congratulations again, it's nice when things work as planned.
Jeff
--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
"Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented."
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Posted by Don Foreman on May 5, 2006, 12:25 pm
Please log in for more thread options On Fri, 05 May 2006 11:02:11 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
>
>
>Is what looks like a washer under the nut in your first photo just that,
> there to span the gap because the puzzlenut has a closed end?
No, the nut is all one piece. The ring is where a concentric slip
collar was affixed before I removed it with a chisel.
>
>Didja try flooding the area with Kroil at any point in the exercise?
Wouldn't have helped. The regular lugnuts showed no rust so I figured
the puzzlenut wouldn't either. It was just on tight. The puzzlenut
and lug threads were in excellent condition when I finally got that
sucker off.
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Posted by Pete C. on May 5, 2006, 12:56 pm
Please log in for more thread options Don Foreman wrote:
>
> On Fri, 05 May 2006 11:02:11 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
> >
> >
> >Is what looks like a washer under the nut in your first photo just that,
> > there to span the gap because the puzzlenut has a closed end?
>
> No, the nut is all one piece. The ring is where a concentric slip
> collar was affixed before I removed it with a chisel.
> >
> >Didja try flooding the area with Kroil at any point in the exercise?
>
> Wouldn't have helped. The regular lugnuts showed no rust so I figured
> the puzzlenut wouldn't either. It was just on tight. The puzzlenut
> and lug threads were in excellent condition when I finally got that
> sucker off.
Kroil would still have helped by penetrating and providing lubrication
to reduce friction. It's not just for rust.
Pete C.
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> key failed on the third one. Sheared the rods right off. Mmm. Rods
> were made of 1/8 mild steel rod. Made new key from the previous
> drawing, using drillrod this time.
>
> Then it started raining for several days. It finally stopped
> yesterday.
>
> Weather ain't great, but it ain't raining and I no longer need a canoe
> or waders to go in the back yard, so time to remove the last
> puzzlenut.
>
> Pull boat out of boat tent. Assemble tools. Tap new snug-fitting
> tool onto last puzzlenut with deadblow hammer until it goes bang
> rather than thud. I did say snug fit, right?
> OK, it's fully seated. Assemble socket, ratchet, and 24" cheater
> (old Rabbit front driveshaft), place on puzzlenut tool, mutter
> invocation to St. Erho, start applying steadily increasing
> pressure on yonder end of the cheater bar. The truck and trailer
> rolled backwards a bit. Leaned a bit harder.
>
> SNAP! Snap? I didn't plan on snap, what's with the snap, I mused
> curiously. I muttered the ancient Celtic word for "curious" which
> has rather different connations in modern English......that's my story
> and I'm stickin' to it.
>
> The welds between the hex part and the key had snapped. Mmmm. My
> welds failed. This does not happen in real life. Leprechauns named
> Murphy have been dancing in my back yard. Now I gotta get that
> muthuh off of there, hadn't planned on that.
>
> Large visegrip, couple of sideways taps to rock it a bit, a little
> prying with large screwdriver, thoop! Came off without a fight. Snug
> fit, nyaahh! Drillrods within are pristine and laughing at me.
> Bring bits into shop, fit together, fire up the TIG and weld the
> snot out of it. All the way round this time, puhlenty of heat, used
> ER70S-6 filler this time. If it's good enough for airframe welding,
> it oughta be good enough for this job. Puddle the size of a 12D
> nailhead, probably at least as deep as its radius. Got me some
> penetration, and generous fillet build as well. Tossed it in the
> water bucket to maybe lightly heat-treat the drillrods within.
>
> Go back out, tap tool onto puzzlenut until it goes bang rather than
> thud. Just 3 light taps this time. Assemble tools, start leaning
> on the yonder end of the cheater. Truck and trailer start rolling.
> Keep increasing the torque. Hello, the cheaterbar is still moving
> but the truck and trailer are no longer rolling! YESSS!!!!
>
> A few strokes later, I'm looking at a bare stud, mercifully not a
> sheared off stud. Man, it hadda be close -- I've sheared off 3/4"
> bumper bolts with that kinda torque. Those studs must be some kinda
> robust steel. Smear a bit of anti-sieze on the stud, wind on new
> puzzlenut to about 60 lbf-ft of torque, replace hub cover, put new key
> in the captive mesh bag in the tacklebox locker, lock the hatch,
> back boat back into tent with big grin.
>
> Gee, it only took me two or three weeks to get that nut off -- but I
> got 'er done as they say. Sure glad I decided to get that leaky tire
> fixed in my backyard rather than alongside a road somewhere.