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Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on April 7, 2008, 2:15 pm
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14c9-40b4-b087-08ca442a213d@u12g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
> wrote:
>>It has fluid in it.
>
> Just out of curiosity, why do they put fluid in a tire? Is it an anti-
> leak additive?
>
Weight/traction. As Ecnerwal said, sometimes there CaCl2 in there for
freeze protection. But that stuff is dirt cheap. It's less trouble to
just dump it, and make more. (and it's easier to put the dry crystals in
the tire when mounting it, than to try and mix the fluid and pump it in.)
LLoyd
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Posted by Andy Asberry on April 7, 2008, 9:52 pm
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On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:15:57 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
<lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
>14c9-40b4-b087-08ca442a213d@u12g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
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>> wrote:
>>>It has fluid in it.
>>
>> Just out of curiosity, why do they put fluid in a tire? Is it an anti-
>> leak additive?
>>
The solution is heavier than water.
>
>Weight/traction. As Ecnerwal said, sometimes there CaCl2 in there for
>freeze protection. But that stuff is dirt cheap. It's less trouble to
>just dump it, and make more. (and it's easier to put the dry crystals in
>the tire when mounting it, than to try and mix the fluid and pump it in.)
>
>LLoyd
Not a good practice. Always add the CaCl2 to the water. There is a lot
of heat generated. Karl, here is a page that may be useful.
http://www.andystireservice.com/ballast.htm
--Andy Asberry--
------Texas-----
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Posted by Bruce L. Bergman on April 8, 2008, 2:51 am
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>On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:15:57 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
><lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
>>14c9-40b4-b087-08ca442a213d@u12g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
>>> wrote:
>>>>It has fluid in it.
>>>
>>> Just out of curiosity, why do they put fluid in a tire? Is it an anti-
>>> leak additive?
>>>
> The solution is heavier than water.
>>
>>Weight/traction. As Ecnerwal said, sometimes there CaCl2 in there for
>>freeze protection. But that stuff is dirt cheap. It's less trouble to
>>just dump it, and make more. (and it's easier to put the dry crystals in
>>the tire when mounting it, than to try and mix the fluid and pump it in.)
>
>Not a good practice. Always add the CaCl2 to the water. There is a lot
>of heat generated. Karl, here is a page that may be useful.
>
>http://www.andystireservice.com/ballast.htm
>
>--Andy Asberry--
>------Texas-----
Gee, do I sense a name and home state match here...? ;-)
(Do they still make the old Goodyear "Metro Miler" city bus tires
that are rated for 50 MPH Max? Because LA Metro used to put them on
all their equipment, including the "Freeway Express" buses bombing
along at 70 in traffic with a full load...)
Oh, and another reason to collect and reuse the filling solution and
not to 'just dump it' is the environmental damage it would cause -
Calcium Chloride in concentrations like that is not going to be good
for the flower beds next to your driveway, and the City/County/State
is going to object to it going into a stream or dumped in the sewers
so the local sewer treatment plant has to deal with it.
And SWMBO is NOT going to be amused when you create a huge dead zone
where not even weeds grow in the yard. And she will be positively
livid when you have to dig out the top foot of soil and pay a fortune
to cart it off to a Hazmat dump site, and then pay even more to truck
in fresh topsoil.
--<< Bruce >>--
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Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on April 8, 2008, 7:27 am
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> And SWMBO is NOT going to be amused when you create a huge dead zone
> where not even weeds grow in the yard. And she will be positively
> livid when you have to dig out the top foot of soil and pay a fortune
> to cart it off to a Hazmat dump site, and then pay even more to truck
> in fresh topsoil.
_MINE_ would be thrilled if I "dumped" it around all the fenceposts, and
around the mailbox.
For the un-informed out there, Calcium Chloride is "dumped" into the
environment in THE THOUSANDS OF TONS by your cold-climate road
departments. It's chemically almost identical to salt, and is used as an
adjunct to make cheeses (the kind you eat, cheese-head).
We don't have that problem here; We can put "something that freezes at
32F" in our tires. No nasties in our tires.
LLoyd
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Posted by Andy Asberry on April 8, 2008, 7:12 pm
Please log in for more thread options On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:51:54 -0700, Bruce L. Bergman
>
> (Do they still make the old Goodyear "Metro Miler" city bus tires
>that are rated for 50 MPH Max? Because LA Metro used to put them on
>all their equipment, including the "Freeway Express" buses bombing
>along at 70 in traffic with a full load...)
Not that I'm aware of.
>
> Oh, and another reason to collect and reuse the filling solution and
>not to 'just dump it' is the environmental damage it would cause -
>Calcium Chloride in concentrations like that is not going to be good
>for the flower beds next to your driveway, and the City/County/State
>is going to object to it going into a stream or dumped in the sewers
>so the local sewer treatment plant has to deal with it.
>
> And SWMBO is NOT going to be amused when you create a huge dead zone
>where not even weeds grow in the yard. And she will be positively
>livid when you have to dig out the top foot of soil and pay a fortune
>to cart it off to a Hazmat dump site, and then pay even more to truck
>in fresh topsoil.
>
> --<< Bruce >>--
That concentration shooting out of valve stem will etch automobile
paint.
--Andy Asberry--
------Texas-----
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