that red "anti-rust" primer dries *SO* dang slow - what's faster? maybe add cobalt drier?

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that red "anti-rust" primer dries *SO* dang slow - what's faster? maybe add cobalt drier? dave 04-09-2006
Posted by dave on April 9, 2006, 2:12 pm
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I have a few 'various stages of rusty' rollaway toolboxes I need to
repaint. after my sanding and solvent-cleaning prep work, I'd 'like' to
spray 'em with that red anti-rust primer (oil based, rustoleum is
probably what I'd be using) before their final color coat(s). problem is
I just haven't got a spare week to sit around while the stuff dries hard
enough to paint over. anybody else ever notice how -s l o w- that stuff
dries?

what about adding some 'cobalt drier' to it to 'speed up the dry time'?
anybody ever done that? I have some it laying around here, but I've
never used it...

are there any -vastly- better metal primer alternatives, in terms of
'dry time' and 'anti-rust' abilities? ps-I'm not gonna go down
'whole-hog, hi-tech ospho, conversion coatings and metal-prep roads'
before I paint these; they're just old toolboxes.

thanks for advice, guys,

toolie

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Posted by Grant Erwin on April 9, 2006, 2:23 pm
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dave wrote:
> I have a few 'various stages of rusty' rollaway toolboxes I need to
> repaint. after my sanding and solvent-cleaning prep work, I'd 'like' to
> spray 'em with that red anti-rust primer (oil based, rustoleum is
> probably what I'd be using) before their final color coat(s). problem is
> I just haven't got a spare week to sit around while the stuff dries hard
> enough to paint over. anybody else ever notice how -s l o w- that stuff
> dries?
>
> what about adding some 'cobalt drier' to it to 'speed up the dry time'?
> anybody ever done that? I have some it laying around here, but I've
> never used it...
>
> are there any -vastly- better metal primer alternatives, in terms of
> 'dry time' and 'anti-rust' abilities? ps-I'm not gonna go down
> 'whole-hog, hi-tech ospho, conversion coatings and metal-prep roads'
> before I paint these; they're just old toolboxes.
>

I had some week-to-dry red oxide primer once. Best thing I ever did was just
throw it out. I think it's a bad batch. I bought 12 cans recently of a
commercial quick-dry red primer which is just wonderful. The cans look el cheapo
but they paint just great and the paint dries fast and goes on well. Keep
looking.

GWE

Posted by Roy on April 9, 2006, 2:28 pm
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Pitch the rustoleum, and go to any good auto body shop supply and get
some red oxide auto primer or some other type of primer, as they have
tons of various primers well suited for what your wanting to do...By
the time you spray the boxes, and clean up the gun somewhat, it will
be dry enough to shoot the finish coat on and be done with it
all......Rustoleum is just too chancey..Sometimes it dires quick other
times it takes days or weeks to dry.....

On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 11:23:11 -0700, Grant Erwin
>><>dave wrote:
>><>> I have a few 'various stages of rusty' rollaway toolboxes I need to
>><>> repaint. after my sanding and solvent-cleaning prep work, I'd 'like' to
>><>> spray 'em with that red anti-rust primer (oil based, rustoleum is
>><>> probably what I'd be using) before their final color coat(s). problem is
>><>> I just haven't got a spare week to sit around while the stuff dries hard
>><>> enough to paint over. anybody else ever notice how -s l o w- that stuff
>><>> dries?
>><>>
>><>> what about adding some 'cobalt drier' to it to 'speed up the dry time'?
>><>> anybody ever done that? I have some it laying around here, but I've
>><>> never used it...
>><>>
>><>> are there any -vastly- better metal primer alternatives, in terms of
>><>> 'dry time' and 'anti-rust' abilities? ps-I'm not gonna go down
>><>> 'whole-hog, hi-tech ospho, conversion coatings and metal-prep roads'
>><>> before I paint these; they're just old toolboxes.
>><>>
>><>
>><>I had some week-to-dry red oxide primer once. Best thing I ever did was just
>><>throw it out. I think it's a bad batch. I bought 12 cans recently of a
>><>commercial quick-dry red primer which is just wonderful. The cans look el
cheapo
>><>but they paint just great and the paint dries fast and goes on well. Keep
looking.
>><>
>><>GWE

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Posted by Leo Lichtman on April 9, 2006, 4:12 pm
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The reason that Rustoleum dries so slowly is that it contains oils which are
meant to penetrate the bonded rust. Primers that dry fast, such as
automotive primers, are meant to be used only over clean metal. A fast
drying primer applied over rust will dry on the surface, and the finish may
chip, flake or peel later on.



Posted by Harold and Susan Vordos on April 9, 2006, 11:33 pm
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> Pitch the rustoleum, and go to any good auto body shop supply and get
> some red oxide auto primer or some other type of primer, as they have
> tons of various primers well suited for what your wanting to do...By
> the time you spray the boxes, and clean up the gun somewhat, it will
> be dry enough to shoot the finish coat on and be done with it
> all......Rustoleum is just too chancey..Sometimes it dires quick other
> times it takes days or weeks to dry.....


What Roy said. I've had excellent results and good fortune with auto type
primers. Make sure they're not primer-surfacer, though, unless you're
trying to fill minor defects and intend to do some serious sanding.

Harold



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