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Posted by Larry Jaques on May 6, 2006, 11:13 pm
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On 6 May 2006 19:36:46 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
CATRUCKMAN@AOL.COM quickly quoth:
>Forget stamped concrete. It takes special equipment and a significant
>crew.
A friend of mine in LoCal used to have a concrete pump and was doing
all sorts of large projects in colored and stamped concrete with it.
He made beaucoup bucks.
In the past few years, though, I've watched several DIY shows on
coloring and stamping concrete, with fiberglass or steel forms.
It was cheap but time consuming and looked a helluva lot better than
pavers due to the organic shapes, if you like that sort of look. It
can also be done on a time-available basis, doing one sack at a time
if you need to. With premixed packets of color, the whole job should
turn out as well as a large truck filled with premeasured amounts.
>You can install pavers for about $2.50/ sq. ft. and do it at a
>leisurely pace. If you are worried about the cost of a diamond blade
>buy one on eBay for about $50. A good one will last many hours. We put
>down over 20 pallets of pavers at our new house and I won't even
>consider finish concrete. Leigh at MarMachine.
A couple of these new forms (18x30" or so), dye, and sackrete should
be even cheaper. It may even be less work, but YMMV. Anyone doing this
job by hand might want to look into it before doing pavers.
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modern world, is often so overladen with excrescences and irrelevancies
that its fundamental nature tends to be obscured.
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Posted by ATP* on May 7, 2006, 9:03 am
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> On 6 May 2006 19:36:46 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
> CATRUCKMAN@AOL.COM quickly quoth:
>
>>Forget stamped concrete. It takes special equipment and a significant
>>crew.
>
> A friend of mine in LoCal used to have a concrete pump and was doing
> all sorts of large projects in colored and stamped concrete with it.
> He made beaucoup bucks.
>
> In the past few years, though, I've watched several DIY shows on
> coloring and stamping concrete, with fiberglass or steel forms.
> It was cheap but time consuming and looked a helluva lot better than
> pavers due to the organic shapes, if you like that sort of look. It
> can also be done on a time-available basis, doing one sack at a time
> if you need to. With premixed packets of color, the whole job should
> turn out as well as a large truck filled with premeasured amounts.
>
>
>>You can install pavers for about $2.50/ sq. ft. and do it at a
>>leisurely pace. If you are worried about the cost of a diamond blade
>>buy one on eBay for about $50. A good one will last many hours. We put
>>down over 20 pallets of pavers at our new house and I won't even
>>consider finish concrete. Leigh at MarMachine.
>
> A couple of these new forms (18x30" or so), dye, and sackrete should
> be even cheaper. It may even be less work, but YMMV. Anyone doing this
> job by hand might want to look into it before doing pavers.
>
I like some of the stamped jobs I've seen, particularly the faux belgian
block paving. I think the more attractive designs have to be done with
semi-flexible stamps, not steel. Those stamps are kind of pricey, and you
really need enough to do at least one row at a time. Probably easier to do a
path than a whole driveway. Some of the more organic shapes are now
available in the higher priced paving stones.
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Posted by Roger Shoaf on May 7, 2006, 7:53 pm
Please log in for more thread options Or here ia another idea for you, make your own pavers. Some cement, sand
and gravel blended with water and you got concrete. if you make your own
molds you can get any shape you want. That way you can control the shape
color and make up as many or as few as you want.
Make them up in the evenings after work, lay them in place on Saturday and
then on Sunday prep the next section for the following week. This method
has several advantages. You can work at your own pace and create a unique
masterpiece. You can also make thicker pavers if for instance you want to
do a driveway and continue the theme. The best reason of all is this will
be the cheapest way to do it and you will have a justification to buy tools.
If later on you need to replace a sewer line that just happens to run under
your sidewalk you can pry up the pavers repair the plumbing, and reset the
tiles.
If something gets damaged the molds are sitting on your shelf in the garage
and you can make replacements. If an obnoxious tree decides to grow roots
under your patio and pushes up your work you can re-level the patio.
If you want to get real clever you can use an M.C. Esher pattern like these:
http://www.mcescher.com/Gallery/gallery-symmetry.htm
Or check our penrose tile like this:
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/PenroseTiles.html
There is lots of neet stuff you can do on the cheap.
--
Roger Shoaf
If knowledge is power, and power corrupts, what does this say about the
Congress?
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> > On 6 May 2006 19:36:46 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
> > CATRUCKMAN@AOL.COM quickly quoth:
> >
> >>Forget stamped concrete. It takes special equipment and a significant
> >>crew.
> >
> > A friend of mine in LoCal used to have a concrete pump and was doing
> > all sorts of large projects in colored and stamped concrete with it.
> > He made beaucoup bucks.
> >
> > In the past few years, though, I've watched several DIY shows on
> > coloring and stamping concrete, with fiberglass or steel forms.
> > It was cheap but time consuming and looked a helluva lot better than
> > pavers due to the organic shapes, if you like that sort of look. It
> > can also be done on a time-available basis, doing one sack at a time
> > if you need to. With premixed packets of color, the whole job should
> > turn out as well as a large truck filled with premeasured amounts.
> >
> >
> >>You can install pavers for about $2.50/ sq. ft. and do it at a
> >>leisurely pace. If you are worried about the cost of a diamond blade
> >>buy one on eBay for about $50. A good one will last many hours. We put
> >>down over 20 pallets of pavers at our new house and I won't even
> >>consider finish concrete. Leigh at MarMachine.
> >
> > A couple of these new forms (18x30" or so), dye, and sackrete should
> > be even cheaper. It may even be less work, but YMMV. Anyone doing this
> > job by hand might want to look into it before doing pavers.
> >
> I like some of the stamped jobs I've seen, particularly the faux belgian
> block paving. I think the more attractive designs have to be done with
> semi-flexible stamps, not steel. Those stamps are kind of pricey, and you
> really need enough to do at least one row at a time. Probably easier to do
a
> path than a whole driveway. Some of the more organic shapes are now
> available in the higher priced paving stones.
>
>
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Posted by axolotl on May 7, 2006, 8:18 pm
Please log in for more thread options Roger Shoaf wrote:
> Or here ia another idea for you, make your own pavers. Some cement, sand
> and gravel blended with water and you got concrete. if you make your own
> molds you can get any shape you want. That way you can control the shape
> color and make up as many or as few as you want.
> If you want to get real clever you can use an M.C. Esher pattern like these:
> http://www.mcescher.com/Gallery/gallery-symmetry.html
This is what got me started. The neighbors already know I'm not normal.
http://www.geckostone.com/gecko.html
Kevin Gallimore
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Posted by Dave Hinz on May 8, 2006, 4:25 pm
Please log in for more thread options > wrote:
>>This is what got me started. The neighbors already know I'm not normal.
>>http://www.geckostone.com/gecko.html
> Now those are Damned clever!!
I want. Wouldn't be a hard mold to make, actually. We've got that
D-size plotter here...hmmm....
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