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Posted by RoyJ on May 27, 2008, 7:08 pm
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You might want to post the same question to the guys on the forums at
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Modat22 wrote:
> I picked up an old international 350 utility tractor and suspect that
> I'll have to overhaul the engine. I've rebuilt car and truck engines
> before but never resleeved one.
>
> I've seen sleeve pullers that use a pipe larger then the sleeve and a
> plate that goes on the other side of the sleeve that uses a bolt to
> pull the sleeve out of the block and into the larger pipe (seems like
> the best option).
>
> Are there any other backyard methods that might be easier to throw
> together?
>
>
> The reason I suspect a rebuild is in order. Last year I got the
> tractor which had hydraulic problems (clogged prefilter) I repaired
> the hydraulics (cleaned the filter) and the thing ran great, good oil
> pressure, changed oil. I only ran the tractor down the driveway and
> put it up for the winter. This year I tried to start it and the engine
> has a squeak in the front end somewhere and is so tight the starter
> doesn't want to turn over. I am unable to rotate the engine with a
> strong arm. I can't locate where the squeak is coming from and assume
> it is the #1 cylinder or front main bearing. Ether one requires the
> engine be removed and figured I might as well overhaul it while its
> out.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Sorry if this is off topic.
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Posted by oldjag on May 27, 2008, 9:54 pm
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> I picked up an old international 350 utility tractor and suspect that
> I'll have to overhaul the engine. I've rebuilt car and truck engines
> before but never resleeved one.
>
> I've seen sleeve pullers that use a pipe larger then the sleeve and a
> plate that goes on the other side of the sleeve that uses a bolt to
> pull the sleeve out of the block and into the larger pipe (seems like
> the best option).
>
> Are there any other backyard methods that might be easier to throw
> together?
>
> The reason I suspect a rebuild is in order. Last year I got the
> tractor which had hydraulic problems (clogged prefilter) I repaired
> the hydraulics (cleaned the filter) and the thing ran great, good oil
> pressure, changed oil. I only ran the tractor down the driveway and
> put it up for the winter. This year I tried to start it and the engine
> has a squeak in the front end somewhere and is so tight the starter
> doesn't want to turn over. I am unable to rotate the engine with a
> strong arm. I can't locate where the squeak is coming from and assume
> it is the #1 cylinder or front main bearing. Ether one requires the
> engine be removed and figured I might as well overhaul it while its
> out.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Sorry if this is off topic.
Sounds kinda strange, I've never seen an engine that will turn over
with a starter, but can't be turned with a bar. How long a bar did you
use? When cranking albeit slowly, did the cranking speed vary with
crank rotation in a regular pattern? This can be a good clue. I
assume you tried cranking with the plugs out and no difference? If
you can bar it over and the problem is a broken/stuck ring or a rod
bearing, (I think unlikely), the force to rotate should decrease as
the rod in the sticking cylinder reaches TDC and BDC. If the torque
to turn is uniform vs. rotational position something non-reciprocating
may be bound up. Does relaeasing the clutch help with cranking speed?
If all else fails, drop the pan and check the bearings. This does not
sound like a typical rod/cylinder failure mode. Wet liners may well
come out with the engine in situ, dry liners may not be as easy, the
ones in my race car block took 40 tons to move. Sometimes people bore
them out until they are very thin and just peel them away.
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Posted by Tom Dacon on May 30, 2008, 12:25 am
Please log in for more thread options For a wet-sleeve Perkins diesel 4-cylinder, I turned a stepped plate from
aluminum about a half-inch thick, drilled and tapped it for 1/2" all-thread,
set up a a couple of stand-off blocks across the top of the block with a
cross-piece of 1/2" steel, and wound the sleeves out with a crescent wrench
on the nut. A piece of cake. I have no idea how well something like that
would work on a dry-sleeved engine.
Tom Dacon
>I picked up an old international 350 utility tractor and suspect that
> I'll have to overhaul the engine. I've rebuilt car and truck engines
> before but never resleeved one.
>
> I've seen sleeve pullers that use a pipe larger then the sleeve and a
> plate that goes on the other side of the sleeve that uses a bolt to
> pull the sleeve out of the block and into the larger pipe (seems like
> the best option).
>
> Are there any other backyard methods that might be easier to throw
> together?
>
>
> The reason I suspect a rebuild is in order. Last year I got the
> tractor which had hydraulic problems (clogged prefilter) I repaired
> the hydraulics (cleaned the filter) and the thing ran great, good oil
> pressure, changed oil. I only ran the tractor down the driveway and
> put it up for the winter. This year I tried to start it and the engine
> has a squeak in the front end somewhere and is so tight the starter
> doesn't want to turn over. I am unable to rotate the engine with a
> strong arm. I can't locate where the squeak is coming from and assume
> it is the #1 cylinder or front main bearing. Ether one requires the
> engine be removed and figured I might as well overhaul it while its
> out.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Sorry if this is off topic.
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Posted by Modat22 on June 2, 2008, 8:00 am
Please log in for more thread options Update, pulled the pan and head this weekend. Number one has 2 broken
rings and the cylinder is scored, but that wasn't the reason not
starting. The exhaust manifold was completely full of dog food to the
point that no exhaust gas passage was possible. Its probably a good
thing though since more damage could have been done if I had ran this
engine much. I'll post a couple photo's soon, I didn't get pics of the
clogged exhaust before a neighbor picked most of it out already.
I just laughed it off and made plans for a rodent stopper in the near
future.
Peace
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Posted by Modat22 on June 10, 2008, 8:52 am
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v512/trilect/Picture015.jpg
350 utility tractor with front end off.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v512/trilect/Picture018.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v512/trilect/Picture017.jpg
Number 1 piston, extreme carbon build-up, stuck and broken rings.
I got my sleeves out, ended up turning down a 1.5 pound cast iron dumb
bell weight and adding a ridge to hold the weight in the sleeve bore,
3/4 all thread rod and a 10 pound weight as the top plate. worked like
a charm
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> I'll have to overhaul the engine. I've rebuilt car and truck engines
> before but never resleeved one.
>
> I've seen sleeve pullers that use a pipe larger then the sleeve and a
> plate that goes on the other side of the sleeve that uses a bolt to
> pull the sleeve out of the block and into the larger pipe (seems like
> the best option).
>
> Are there any other backyard methods that might be easier to throw
> together?
>
>
> The reason I suspect a rebuild is in order. Last year I got the
> tractor which had hydraulic problems (clogged prefilter) I repaired
> the hydraulics (cleaned the filter) and the thing ran great, good oil
> pressure, changed oil. I only ran the tractor down the driveway and
> put it up for the winter. This year I tried to start it and the engine
> has a squeak in the front end somewhere and is so tight the starter
> doesn't want to turn over. I am unable to rotate the engine with a
> strong arm. I can't locate where the squeak is coming from and assume
> it is the #1 cylinder or front main bearing. Ether one requires the
> engine be removed and figured I might as well overhaul it while its
> out.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Sorry if this is off topic.