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what's causing RUST on my Stainless Steel? RainLover 03-29-2006
Posted by RainLover on March 29, 2006, 8:50 am
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Hey everyone,

I build sculpture out of 316L Stainless Steel and am having serious
RUST issues. It seem anywhere I grind using a hard disk to grind down
welds will ends up with a ton of surface rust where ever the sparks of
the grinding hit the sculpture. I'm having to RE-finish pieces to
remove the millions of specks of rust that develop.

What's going on here? Is there carbide precipitation happening in
each spark? (I can't get away from hard grinding some areas of my
work after final assembly and the finish polish is already on 90% of
sculpture.)

Is it the grinding wheel I'm using? (Do some disks have Ferrous
material in them or something??) I usually don't use grinding wheels
stamped "for stainless" because of their cost, but I always thought
that was a matter of HOW they remove material, not that they would
contaminate stainless steel.

Any suggestions????



James, Port Orchard

www.jameskelseystudios.com



Posted by Lloyd E. Sponenburgh on March 29, 2006, 9:05 am
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> Hey everyone,
>
> I build sculpture out of 316L Stainless Steel and am having serious
> RUST issues. It seem anywhere I grind using a hard disk to grind down
> welds will ends up with a ton of surface rust where ever the sparks of
> the grinding hit the sculpture. I'm having to RE-finish pieces to
> remove the millions of specks of rust that develop.
>
> What's going on here? Is there carbide precipitation happening in
> each spark? (I can't get away from hard grinding some areas of my
> work after final assembly and the finish polish is already on 90% of
> sculpture.)

Those bits of steel that have been heated past incandesence to the
'sparking' stage by the grinder have lost their non-corrodable properties.
The bits are so hot when projected by the wheel that they weld to the
surface around. Each bit then rusts, and deposits that rust on the surface
around it.

LLoyd



Posted by yourname on March 29, 2006, 9:53 am
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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
>
>>Hey everyone,
>>
>>I build sculpture out of 316L Stainless Steel and am having serious
>>RUST issues. It seem anywhere I grind using a hard disk to grind down
>>welds will ends up with a ton of surface rust where ever the sparks of
>>the grinding hit the sculpture. I'm having to RE-finish pieces to
>>remove the millions of specks of rust that develop.
>>
>>What's going on here? Is there carbide precipitation happening in
>>each spark? (I can't get away from hard grinding some areas of my
>>work after final assembly and the finish polish is already on 90% of
>>sculpture.)
>
>
> Those bits of steel that have been heated past incandesence to the
> 'sparking' stage by the grinder have lost their non-corrodable properties.
> The bits are so hot when projected by the wheel that they weld to the
> surface around. Each bit then rusts, and deposits that rust on the surface
> around it.
>
> LLoyd
>
>
reeeeally big vat of nitric acid should do the trick.......

don't try this at home kids, or at least let me watch

Posted by Glenn Ashmore on March 29, 2006, 10:08 am
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I have been doing a lot of welding and grinding of 316L lately. After 316
has been heated for any reason it needs to be passivated to remove the free
iron. I give the parts a 10-20 minute dip in Citrisurf 2250 between the
grinding and polishing stage.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

> Hey everyone,
>
> I build sculpture out of 316L Stainless Steel and am having serious
> RUST issues. It seem anywhere I grind using a hard disk to grind down
> welds will ends up with a ton of surface rust where ever the sparks of
> the grinding hit the sculpture. I'm having to RE-finish pieces to
> remove the millions of specks of rust that develop.
>
> What's going on here? Is there carbide precipitation happening in
> each spark? (I can't get away from hard grinding some areas of my
> work after final assembly and the finish polish is already on 90% of
> sculpture.)
>
> Is it the grinding wheel I'm using? (Do some disks have Ferrous
> material in them or something??) I usually don't use grinding wheels
> stamped "for stainless" because of their cost, but I always thought
> that was a matter of HOW they remove material, not that they would
> contaminate stainless steel.
>
> Any suggestions????
>
>
>
> James, Port Orchard
>
> www.jameskelseystudios.com
>
>



Posted by Randy Replogle on March 29, 2006, 10:22 am
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wrote:

>Citrisurf 2250




Would this work for electropolishing?

Randy Replogle

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