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3-Phase Distribution from Phase Converter Peter Neill 06-14-2008
Posted by mark on June 14, 2008, 12:55 pm
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> I should be shortly be installing my Bantam & 540 in the workshop
> after a long delay, but have a question about getting power to them.
>
> I have a Transwave static converter (3Kw/4Hp) which will be running
> the Bridgy in addition to the above, but obviously not all at the same
> time.
>
> What's the best (cheapest/easiest) =A0way to get the power from the
> converter to these machines? Do I need to install a pukka distribution
> board hard wired to the converter, or can I use something like a
> 3-phase 'extension lead', into a 'panel' with seperate 3-phase
> sockets, and then run leads with plugs into this panel, a bit like
> like a multi-gang socket?
>
> How has anyone done this with a similar requirement?
>
> The machines are all in a single-car garage, and will be spaced around
> roughly an 8' x 8' area. Do I need to be concerned about length (and
> size) of cable runs and voltage drops etc?
>
> Lots of questions, but I'm fairly electrically dyslexic, so simple
> answers please<g>.
>
> Peter

HI peter,
You can make MDF boxes like this with surface mounted sockets ...and
site them around your workshop

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/drill/full.jpg

or

You can put the cable coming from the converter into a box like this
and have lots of cables coming out going to individual surface mount
sockets ...box was about =A35

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/BOX.jpg

how it looks

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/FARBOX.jpg


sockets about =A34 each .these are nice ones with iris type cable clamp.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/SOCKET.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/SOUTHBEND.jp=
g

all the best.markj

Posted by Richard Edwards on June 14, 2008, 1:59 pm
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On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:55:12 -0700 (PDT), mark

>> I should be shortly be installing my Bantam & 540 in the workshop
>> after a long delay, but have a question about getting power to them.
>>
>> I have a Transwave static converter (3Kw/4Hp) which will be running
>> the Bridgy in addition to the above, but obviously not all at the same
>> time.
>>
>> What's the best (cheapest/easiest)  way to get the power from the
>> converter to these machines? Do I need to install a pukka distribution
>> board hard wired to the converter, or can I use something like a
>> 3-phase 'extension lead', into a 'panel' with seperate 3-phase
>> sockets, and then run leads with plugs into this panel, a bit like
>> like a multi-gang socket?
>>
>> How has anyone done this with a similar requirement?
>>
>> The machines are all in a single-car garage, and will be spaced around
>> roughly an 8' x 8' area. Do I need to be concerned about length (and
>> size) of cable runs and voltage drops etc?
>>
>> Lots of questions, but I'm fairly electrically dyslexic, so simple
>> answers please<g>.
>>
>> Peter
>
>HI peter,
> You can make MDF boxes like this with surface mounted sockets ...and
>site them around your workshop
>
>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/drill/full.jpg
>
>or
>
> You can put the cable coming from the converter into a box like this
>and have lots of cables coming out going to individual surface mount
>sockets ...box was about £5
>
>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/BOX.jpg
>
>how it looks
>
>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/FARBOX.jpg
>
>
>sockets about £4 each .these are nice ones with iris type cable clamp.
>
>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/SOCKET.jpg
>
>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/SOUTHBEND.jpg
>
>all the best.markj

As the worklight is a tilley lamp, I am surprised you are not using a
treadle <G>
For the OP the cable used is "SY"

--

Richard

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Posted by Peter Neill on June 15, 2008, 3:51 am
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On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:55:12 -0700 (PDT), mark

>> I should be shortly be installing my Bantam & 540 in the workshop
>> after a long delay, but have a question about getting power to them.
>>
>> I have a Transwave static converter (3Kw/4Hp) which will be running
>> the Bridgy in addition to the above, but obviously not all at the same
>> time.
>>
>> What's the best (cheapest/easiest)  way to get the power from the
>> converter to these machines? Do I need to install a pukka distribution
>> board hard wired to the converter, or can I use something like a
>> 3-phase 'extension lead', into a 'panel' with seperate 3-phase
>> sockets, and then run leads with plugs into this panel, a bit like
>> like a multi-gang socket?
>>
>> How has anyone done this with a similar requirement?
>>
>> The machines are all in a single-car garage, and will be spaced around
>> roughly an 8' x 8' area. Do I need to be concerned about length (and
>> size) of cable runs and voltage drops etc?
>>
>> Lots of questions, but I'm fairly electrically dyslexic, so simple
>> answers please<g>.
>>
>> Peter
>
>HI peter,
> You can make MDF boxes like this with surface mounted sockets ...and
>site them around your workshop
>
>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/drill/full.jpg
>
>or
>
> You can put the cable coming from the converter into a box like this
>and have lots of cables coming out going to individual surface mount
>sockets ...box was about £5
>
>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/BOX.jpg
>
>how it looks
>
>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/FARBOX.jpg
>
>
>sockets about £4 each .these are nice ones with iris type cable clamp.
>
>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/SOCKET.jpg
>
>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/SOUTHBEND.jpg
>
>all the best.markj


Many thanks to everybody for all the replies, it's just the sort of
information I was looking for.
And thanks again for all the offers of plugs & sockets. I've got some
of these that I kept when we shut down the old factory about 2 years
ago, and hopefully these will do the trick.

What I was unsure about was how to use these, but i think the question
has been answered now.

Markj, thats exactly the sort of thing I had in mind. Central feed out
from the convertor to a distribution point with sockets.
In this picture here, how have you wired up the box inside?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/BOX.jpg

Is there a central busbar or similar with individual circuit breakers,
or have you done it a different way? Wouldn't mind a pic of the inside
if you can manage that,

Thanks again

Peter


Posted by mark on June 15, 2008, 2:11 pm
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> On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:55:12 -0700 (PDT), mark
>
>
>
>
>
> >> I should be shortly be installing my Bantam & 540 in the workshop
> >> after a long delay, but have a question about getting power to them.
>
> >> I have a Transwave static converter (3Kw/4Hp) which will be running
> >> the Bridgy in addition to the above, but obviously not all at the same
> >> time.
>
> >> What's the best (cheapest/easiest) =A0way to get the power from the
> >> converter to these machines? Do I need to install a pukka distribution
> >> board hard wired to the converter, or can I use something like a
> >> 3-phase 'extension lead', into a 'panel' with seperate 3-phase
> >> sockets, and then run leads with plugs into this panel, a bit like
> >> like a multi-gang socket?
>
> >> How has anyone done this with a similar requirement?
>
> >> The machines are all in a single-car garage, and will be spaced around
> >> roughly an 8' x 8' area. Do I need to be concerned about length (and
> >> size) of cable runs and voltage drops etc?
>
> >> Lots of questions, but I'm fairly electrically dyslexic, so simple
> >> answers please<g>.
>
> >> Peter
>
> >HI peter,
> > You can make MDF boxes like this with surface mounted sockets ...and
> >site them around your workshop
>
> >http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/drill/full.jpg
>
> >or
>
> > You can put the cable coming from the converter into a box like this
> >and have lots of cables coming out going to individual surface mount
> >sockets ...box was about =A35
>
> >http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/BOX.jpg
>
> >how it looks
>
> >http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/FARBO...
>
> >sockets about =A34 each .these are nice ones with iris type cable clamp.
>
> >http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/SOCKE...
>
> >http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/SOUTH...
>
> >all the best.markj
>
> Many thanks to everybody for all the replies, it's just the sort of
> information I was looking for.
> And thanks again for all the offers of plugs & sockets. I've got some
> of these that I kept when we shut down the old factory about 2 years
> ago, and hopefully these will do the trick.
>
> What I was unsure about was how to use these, but i think the question
> has been answered now.
>
> Markj, thats exactly the sort of thing I had in mind. Central feed out
> from the convertor to a distribution point with sockets.
> In this picture here, how have you wired up the box inside?http://img.phot=
obucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/BOX.jpg
>
> Is there a central busbar or similar with individual circuit breakers,
> or have you done it a different way? Wouldn't mind a pic of the inside
> if you can manage that,
>
> Thanks again
>
> Peter- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Not a lot in there

just a block connector

sent you picture

needed the big box for future expansion and it gives you plenty of
room to get in there and join everything up .

Yes.. cable is shielded ...its known as SY cable... just
remember ...suits-you :)

4 core 1.5

its quite cheap stuff as well.... under a =A31 a metre...may have been
cheaper than that ...cant remember.

all the best.mark

Posted by NoSpam on June 15, 2008, 5:03 am
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mark wrote:
>> I should be shortly be installing my Bantam & 540 in the workshop
>> after a long delay, but have a question about getting power to them.
>>
>> I have a Transwave static converter (3Kw/4Hp) which will be running
>> the Bridgy in addition to the above, but obviously not all at the same
>> time.
>>
>> What's the best (cheapest/easiest) way to get the power from the
>> converter to these machines? Do I need to install a pukka distribution
>> board hard wired to the converter, or can I use something like a
>> 3-phase 'extension lead', into a 'panel' with seperate 3-phase
>> sockets, and then run leads with plugs into this panel, a bit like
>> like a multi-gang socket?
>>
>> How has anyone done this with a similar requirement?
>>
>> The machines are all in a single-car garage, and will be spaced around
>> roughly an 8' x 8' area. Do I need to be concerned about length (and
>> size) of cable runs and voltage drops etc?
>>
>> Lots of questions, but I'm fairly electrically dyslexic, so simple
>> answers please<g>.
>>
>> Peter
>
> HI peter,
> You can make MDF boxes like this with surface mounted sockets ...and
> site them around your workshop
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/drill/full.jpg
>
> or
>
> You can put the cable coming from the converter into a box like this
> and have lots of cables coming out going to individual surface mount
> sockets ...box was about £5
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/BOX.jpg
>
> how it looks
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/FARBOX.jpg
>
>
> sockets about £4 each .these are nice ones with iris type cable clamp.
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/SOCKET.jpg
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/aboard_epsilon/workbench/SOUTHBEND.jpg
>
> all the best.markj

What type of cable is that? is it shielded?

Dave

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