440 3Phase Controller

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440 3Phase Controller Rod 09-26-2006
Posted by on September 27, 2006, 7:51 am
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wrote:

>It is a 440 3 Phase with three wires, one is 220., and two are 110 thus
>the 440. The ground just runs to the outside of the motor. The
>controller has a manual showing all three wires but none with the 220
>wire marked and I don't want to hook it up wrong and blow the
>controller. One side of the wrap on the motor is 220 and the other is
>110. The controller is made for that but as I said it does not list
>it. It is a Baldor ID15V410ER controller that I bought on ebay.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Rod
>pentagrid@yahoo.com wrote:
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I have a controller that I want to hook up to a 3phase motor which is
>> >currently working without one. The problem I have is I bought the
>> >controller off of ebay without a manual and I know my motor has one
>> >wire that is 220 and two that are 110 with a ground to the motor. My
>> >controller has L1, L2, and L3 with corresponding T1, T2 and T3. My
>> >question is which of these is the 220 and which are the 110 as I do not
>> >want to blow the controller out.
>>
>>
>> The motor you have described is a very strange beast.
>> More info is needed.
>>
>> Is your motor at present running from 415V 3 phase, 240V 3 phase
>> or 240V single phase?
>>
>> Also have you looked for a web site - pretty well all reputable
>> manufacturers post downloadable manuals.
>>
>> Jim
>>
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It sounds as if you have an American motor running from USA
type power supplies - because you posted to a UK group I assumed
European standards.

You have a straightforward 3 phase machine that can be
connected directly to the T1,T2,T3 outputs of a VFD.in ANY
convenient order. Reverse any pair of wires to reverse the
direction of rotation.

THe 110V, 220V, labels are not multiple voltage
ratings of the motor but simply relate to the way the motor is
normally connected to a common type of USA 3phase supply. This
is a 3 phase 220V supply which has no neutral but the centre tap
of one pair of lines is grounded. The voltage with respect to
ground for these two wires is 110V-0-110v hence the labels. This
arrangment permits these two wires plus ground to be used for
domestic 110V/220V single phase outlets.

The way you have described the labels indicates a
machine connected for 220V operation. Dual voltage 220V/440V
motors exist but require a rather complicated reconnection of 9
separate wires.

Jim







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Posted by Ian Cockshull on September 27, 2006, 8:19 am
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Oohh You are naughty John.

Just because our friend does not understand that you cannot simply add
the voltages together for 3 phase!!

I would suggest he gets some professional advise.

Regards
Ian C





>
>>It is a 440 3 Phase with three wires, one is 220., and two are 110 thus
>>the 440. The ground just runs to the outside of the motor. The
>>controller has a manual showing all three wires but none with the 220
>>wire marked and I don't want to hook it up wrong and blow the
>>controller. One side of the wrap on the motor is 220 and the other is
>>110. The controller is made for that but as I said it does not list
>>it. It is a Baldor ID15V410ER controller that I bought on ebay.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Rod
>
>Aah that answers the question.
>It's a crappy American motor designed to run [ or not run ] on their
>system.
>
>You need one phase at 240v from Georgia, one 110v split phase from
>Montana and a 480 volt phase from Washington State.
>Earth should be fine from any of the lower States.
>
>.
>
>>pentagrid@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I have a controller that I want to hook up to a 3phase motor which is
>>> >currently working without one. The problem I have is I bought the
>>> >controller off of ebay without a manual and I know my motor has one
>>> >wire that is 220 and two that are 110 with a ground to the motor. My
>>> >controller has L1, L2, and L3 with corresponding T1, T2 and T3. My
>>> >question is which of these is the 220 and which are the 110 as I do not
>>> >want to blow the controller out.
>>>
>>>
>>> The motor you have described is a very strange beast.
>>> More info is needed.
>>>
>>> Is your motor at present running from 415V 3 phase, 240V 3 phase
>>> or 240V single phase?
>>>
>>> Also have you looked for a web site - pretty well all reputable
>>> manufacturers post downloadable manuals.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> --
>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>--
>Regards,
>
>John Stevenson
>Nottingham, England.
>
>Visit the new Model Engineering adverts page at:-
>http://www.homeworkshop.org.uk/

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Posted by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nick_M=FCller?= on September 27, 2006, 11:27 am
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> You need one phase at 240v from Georgia, one 110v split phase from
> Montana and a 480 volt phase from Washington State.
> Earth should be fine from any of the lower States.

Not to forget some extenion cord. Maybe 100km to fine tune the phase.


Nick
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<http://www.yadro.de>
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Posted by Nigel Eaton on October 1, 2006, 4:52 pm
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>
>> You need one phase at 240v from Georgia, one 110v split phase from
>> Montana and a 480 volt phase from Washington State.
>> Earth should be fine from any of the lower States.
>
>Not to forget some extenion cord. Maybe 100km to fine tune the phase.

100km will never work in the USA. You're going to need a 62 mile one.

--
Nigel

When the only tools you have are a Bridgeport, a CNC Taig Mill, a Colchester
and assorted other stuff, every problem looks like a steam engine.


Posted by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nick_M=FCller?= on September 26, 2006, 5:14 pm
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> OK so thats the end of my theory ...

Now I'm really confused. :-))

One correction:
If it can run in star and delta, it has six wires.

And what I really don't understand at all:
The OP says some windings do have connection to earth. That would be a
clear reason for scrapping the motor.


Nick
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