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Posted by on May 7, 2008, 4:37 am
Please log in for more thread options > On Tue, 6 May 2008 12:17:00 -0700 (PDT), "m...@ems-fife.co.uk"
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> >> *Added bit* I just had a quick look at some online dealer pages, and
> >> it seems the price of 540s has gone through the roof since I looked
> >> last year! Just take a look here:http://www.andmar.co.uk/grinding_machi=
nes.html
> >> On that basis alone, I think the =A3450 starting price on e-bay is a
> >> bargain.
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> >> Peter
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> >Peter,
> >buying a machine from Andmar is the same as buying a new machine from
> >J&S.Andmar rebuild these to the same or better spec than new so it`s
> >not a good comparison with one of theirs and something on Ebay which
> >could be clapped out.
> >I think the Ebay one is an old round button model with the buttons/
> >contactors replaced.The later models had large square buttons and the
> >latest ones have a seperate electrical cabinet bolted on the side.
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> >Mark.
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> Based on the fact that my 1959 one is round button and that one is 1955, O=
ne
> must assume that the contactor panel has been replaced at some time in the=
> last 40 years. I don't think that, in itself, is a problem. May even mean =
that
> it has been loved and looked after:-)
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> It specifically doesn't have power rise and fall to the wheelhead. OTOH th=
e
> J&S 540's do have hydraulic table feed and automatic cross (front-to-back)=
> feed. Both things that the Dronsfield Eagle doesn't have, being manual.
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> Specific differences between the J&S 540 and 1400 are:-
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> 540
> 18"x6"x11" nominal envelope
> 7" wheels
> Internal hydraulic tank and pump
> conventional V slides cross (front-back) slide
> footprint 65"x33"
> weight 3/4 ton
> total power 1 1/2hp
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> 1400
> 24"x8"x11" nominal footprint
> 8" wheels
> external hydraulic tank and pump
> ball slide cross slide
> footprint 93"x42"
> weight 1 1/4 ton
> total power 2 1/2hp
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> The 1400's often seem to go for about the same or less than the 540's. But=
the
> 540 is probably a better citizen in the average home shop, since it's smal=
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> lighter, uses less electric and doesn't have the external 12 gallon oil ta=
nk.
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> When I got mine, I had made work an offer on a little Herbert 5"x10" manua=
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> grinder. The factory manager quoted me the price that he would have got fr=
om
> the scrappies and I thought it was ok. It was only when they posted me the=
> invoice for payment a couple of months later that I realised they'd sold m=
e
> the 1400. =A0When I told them about it, they were willing to sell me the l=
ittle
> machine for the same price if it was going to cause me problems. I told th=
em
> that I's redesign my new workshop to fit the bigger grinder :-)
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> Re the Ebay one. I wouldn't have paid =A3450 before I got mine. But now I =
know
> how useful they can be I might be tempted.
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> Mark Rand
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Mark
Thanks for spending the time to produce such a detailed and very
helpful reply. I will have to think harder about the layout of my
"shed" after I have reduced some of the current duplication. I guess
from what you and Peter have said that it will, to a certain extent,
depend on my luck (time and place) in finding a reasonable machine
when I finally reach into my pocket. I am starting to think, seeing
some of the dealer prices, that I might have missed the boat, I have a
feeling that these were much cheaper a while ago. Too much thinking
and not enough doing again.
Thanks, as always, to everyone for your comments and opinions I do
find them very helpful. Yet again, my problem seems to be defining
exactly what I want to do in this shack, shed, store, workshop or
whatever it is that I am rapidly filling up. As you guys identify
"real" machines for me to think about my initially "adequate" space
shrinks alarmingly, guess I'll have to talk to JS about the secret of
his unfillable space. I have concluded that I am at the point of
changing from "collecting and making use what was available" to
"creating exactly what I want" - and I thought this hobby got easier
with experience??? Are you sure you guys are good examples? My wife
thinks I have got into "bad company".
Regards
Keith
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