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Anybody want a grinder or two (or fifty :-) Mark Rand 05-06-2008
Posted by Mark Rand on May 6, 2008, 1:21 pm
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Ebay:-
Get them while they're hot


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160237880071


Mark Rand
RTFM

Posted by Peter Neill on May 6, 2008, 2:16 pm
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On Tue, 06 May 2008 18:21:49 +0100, Mark Rand

>Ebay:-
>Get them while they're hot
>
>
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160237880071
>
>
>Mark Rand
>RTFM

Fifty?? 'kin 'ell , thats a lot of dust flying around!
Could do with a dust extractor for mine.

Pe

Posted by on May 6, 2008, 2:29 pm
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> On Tue, 06 May 2008 18:21:49 +0100, Mark Rand
>
> >Ebay:-
> >Get them while they're hot
>
> >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160237880071
>
> >Mark Rand
> >RTFM
>
> Fifty?? 'kin 'ell , thats a lot of dust flying around!
> Could do with a dust extractor for mine.
>
> Pe

Peter/Mark

I'm still "thinking" about a smallish surface grinder would one of
these be a good general machine? I had thought about a little manual
Eagle or something similar. These 540s seem to be a bit variable in
price how much should I think of paying for an average one.

Regards

Keith

Posted by Peter Neill on May 6, 2008, 2:57 pm
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On Tue, 6 May 2008 11:29:44 -0700 (PDT), jontom_1uk@hotmail.com wrote:

>> On Tue, 06 May 2008 18:21:49 +0100, Mark Rand
>>
>> >Ebay:-
>> >Get them while they're hot
>>
>> >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160237880071
>>
>> >Mark Rand
>> >RTFM
>>
>> Fifty?? 'kin 'ell , thats a lot of dust flying around!
>> Could do with a dust extractor for mine.
>>
>> Pe
>
>Peter/Mark
>
>I'm still "thinking" about a smallish surface grinder would one of
>these be a good general machine? I had thought about a little manual
>Eagle or something similar. These 540s seem to be a bit variable in
>price how much should I think of paying for an average one.
>
>Regards
>
>Keith

Keith,
The 540s are an excellent machine, pretty much the archetypal british
surface grinder. Once upon a time if you had a Bridgeport, a
Colchester, and a J&S 540 you had a toolroom.

Price varies with age condition and accessories as always. An
optidress is nice to have but only if you need to dress wheels for
form grinding. Much more useful is a 'pick feed' where you will get
an automatic downfeed and shut off of the wheelhead in minute
increments, and the 540 will grind to a tenth of a thou quite easily.

Machines with a sealed for life ball bearing spindle (factory option
extra ££) are preferable to the standard plain bearing machine,
although these are still very good. You can usually tell the ball
bearing wheelhead machines by the flat surface on the spindle housing
and lack of a sightglass for the oil level. Machines with a power rise
& fall for the wheelhead also come a bit dearer.

As for price? Well some very early models (I think these were first
built during the War) still make a couple of hundred quid, whereas a
dealer will sell a late 70's/early 80's model for £3-4K.
Mine is a 1980 model with power rise & fall, and ball bearing head,
and I paid a little under a grand for it, but from people I knew and
had previously put an awful lot of business with.

I believe that both Mark Rand (who has a J&S 1400) and Mark Jones (who
has the full works on his 540) both got very good deals on their
machines, much cheaper than mine I think, so it may be a matter of
being in the right place at the right time.

*Added bit* I just had a quick look at some online dealer pages, and
it seems the price of 540s has gone through the roof since I looked
last year! Just take a look here:
http://www.andmar.co.uk/grinding_machines.html
On that basis alone, I think the £450 starting price on e-bay is a
bargain.

Peter



Posted by mark@ems-fife.co.uk on May 6, 2008, 3:17 pm
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> *Added bit* I just had a quick look at some online dealer pages, and
> it seems the price of 540s has gone through the roof since I looked
> last year! Just take a look here:http://www.andmar.co.uk/grinding_machines=
.html
> On that basis alone, I think the =A3450 starting price on e-bay is a
> bargain.
>
> Peter

Peter,
buying a machine from Andmar is the same as buying a new machine from
J&S.Andmar rebuild these to the same or better spec than new so it`s
not a good comparison with one of theirs and something on Ebay which
could be clapped out.
I think the Ebay one is an old round button model with the buttons/
contactors replaced.The later models had large square buttons and the
latest ones have a seperate electrical cabinet bolted on the side.

Mark.


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