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Following on from 'Rust in Workshop' Brad. 04-09-2008
Posted by Brad. on April 9, 2008, 5:55 pm
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Hi all.
Thanks for all the replies about rust in my workshop. I'll have a good think
of what next to do to rid the rust.
No-one picked up upon the question about how I can get rid of the rust on
the bed of the milling machine. Although I sprayed the machine vey well
with WD40, the bed has become quite rusty. Would it be safe to use very
fine wet'n'dry or steel wool to clean it up? I'm sure the rust is only
superficial. Strangely, the lathe bed (Myford) isn't rusty at all ! Could
that be the difference between Iron and Steel?
Incidentally, Dave is my name, Brad is my nickname.
Cheers.



Posted by mark on April 9, 2008, 6:58 pm
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> Hi all.
> Thanks for all the replies about rust in my workshop. I'll have a good thi=
nk
> of what next to do to rid the rust.
> No-one =A0picked up upon the question about how I can get rid of the rust =
on
> the bed of the milling machine. =A0Although I sprayed the machine vey well=

> with WD40, the bed has become quite rusty. =A0Would it be safe to use very=

> fine wet'n'dry or steel wool to clean it up? =A0 I'm sure the rust is only=

> superficial. =A0Strangely, the lathe bed (Myford) isn't rusty at all ! =A0=
Could
> that be the difference between Iron and =A0Steel?
> Incidentally, Dave is my name, Brad is my nickname.
> Cheers.

it's gone rusty because of the wd40

you used way oil on your lathe

you used wd40 on your mill

so wipe the mill down with hydraulic oil ...hydraulic is the same as
way oil without the tackfiers .

wd 40 will hold moisture ...

you can use scotch bright to clean your mill.

or 00 wire wool


all the best...markj

Posted by Brad. on April 9, 2008, 8:01 pm
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> Hi all.
> Thanks for all the replies about rust in my workshop. I'll have a good
> think
> of what next to do to rid the rust.
> No-one picked up upon the question about how I can get rid of the rust on
> the bed of the milling machine. Although I sprayed the machine vey well
> with WD40, the bed has become quite rusty. Would it be safe to use very
> fine wet'n'dry or steel wool to clean it up? I'm sure the rust is only
> superficial. Strangely, the lathe bed (Myford) isn't rusty at all ! Could
> that be the difference between Iron and Steel?
> Incidentally, Dave is my name, Brad is my nickname.
> Cheers.

it's gone rusty because of the wd40

you used way oil on your lathe

you used wd40 on your mill

so wipe the mill down with hydraulic oil ...hydraulic is the same as
way oil without the tackfiers .

wd 40 will hold moisture ...

you can use scotch bright to clean your mill.

or 00 wire wool


all the best...markj


Cheers for that, I really appreciate your advise. It makes sense about WD40
and the amount of condensation in the workshop sending tings rusty. I'm not
so worried now.
Many thanks.
Brad.



Posted by :Jerry: on April 10, 2008, 5:25 am
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>
>
<snip>
>
>> wd 40 will hold moisture ...
>

>
>
> Cheers for that, I really appreciate your advise. It makes sense
> about WD40 and the amount of condensation in the workshop sending
> tings rusty. I'm not so worried now.

Hmm, first time I've ever heard that said about WD40, considering that
it was designed primarily as a water dispersant for electrical
circuits etc. In fact it's first use was in the USA space/defence
programme as a water displacer and corrosion inhibitor...

Now I don't normally suggest that people read Wikipeadia, do to the
gross unreliability of the facts contained within (due to the policy
of allowing anyone edit without first proving their knowledge) but
this brief page on WD-40 is very close to the fact that have been
known for over 40 years - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40

I suppose what might be the problem is the cheapo imitations that are
around that claim to have some of the same properties as WD-40, many
of these do indeed contain a high degree of water as they are not
actually marketed as water displacers, being just penetrating oils
instead. The other problem is, as Trevor has pointed out, WD-40 is
very good at removing other oils too...




Posted by Duracell Bunny on April 10, 2008, 6:13 am
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:Jerry: wrote:
>>
> <snip>
>>> wd 40 will hold moisture ...
>
>>
>> Cheers for that, I really appreciate your advise. It makes sense
>> about WD40 and the amount of condensation in the workshop sending
>> tings rusty. I'm not so worried now.
>
> Hmm, first time I've ever heard that said about WD40, considering that
> it was designed primarily as a water dispersant for electrical
> circuits etc. In fact it's first use was in the USA space/defence
> programme as a water displacer and corrosion inhibitor...
>
> Now I don't normally suggest that people read Wikipeadia, do to the
> gross unreliability of the facts contained within (due to the policy
> of allowing anyone edit without first proving their knowledge) but
> this brief page on WD-40 is very close to the fact that have been
> known for over 40 years - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40
>
> I suppose what might be the problem is the cheapo imitations that are
> around that claim to have some of the same properties as WD-40, many
> of these do indeed contain a high degree of water as they are not
> actually marketed as water displacers, being just penetrating oils
> instead. The other problem is, as Trevor has pointed out, WD-40 is
> very good at removing other oils too...
>
>
>
I think the problem lies in the fact that as WD-40 is a water dispersant, it
seems to do this by forming a solution/mixture/emulsion with the water,
everything else evaporates fast leaving just the water behind.

I use WD-40 only when I need a solvent, not a lubricant - locally (Australia) we
use RP-3 as a longer term thin lubricant (locks, firearms etc where powdered
graphite won't always do the job). I wipe off the WD-40 after it's done the job
& lubricate with oil, or spray with lanoguard (lanoline spray) if I need to
prevent ways rusting.

--
Karen

If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.'
Catherine Aird

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