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Following on from 'Rust in Workshop' Brad. 04-09-2008
Posted by :Jerry: on April 10, 2008, 7:08 am
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> :Jerry: wrote:
>>>
>> <snip>
>>>> wd 40 will hold moisture ...
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers for that, I really appreciate your advise. It makes sense
>>> about WD40 and the amount of condensation in the workshop sending
>>> tings rusty. I'm not so worried now.
>>
>> Hmm, first time I've ever heard that said about WD40, considering
>> that
>> it was designed primarily as a water dispersant for electrical
>> circuits etc. In fact it's first use was in the USA space/defence
>> programme as a water displacer and corrosion inhibitor...
>>
>> Now I don't normally suggest that people read Wikipeadia, do to the
>> gross unreliability of the facts contained within (due to the
>> policy
>> of allowing anyone edit without first proving their knowledge) but
>> this brief page on WD-40 is very close to the fact that have been
>> known for over 40 years - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40
>>
>> I suppose what might be the problem is the cheapo imitations that
>> are around that claim to have some of the same properties as WD-40,
>> many of these do indeed contain a high degree of water as they are
>> not actually marketed as water displacers, being just penetrating
>> oils instead. The other problem is, as Trevor has pointed out,
>> WD-40 is very good at removing other oils too...
>>
>>
>>
> I think the problem lies in the fact that as WD-40 is a water
> dispersant, it seems to do this by forming a
> solution/mixture/emulsion with the water, everything else evaporates
> fast leaving just the water behind.

No, it doesn't leave the water behind, if it did that it wouldn't be a
water dispersant!

>
> I use WD-40 only when I need a solvent, not a lubricant -
<snip>

I only use WD-40 when I want to remove water from hard to reach areas,
when I need a solvent I use a solvent <g>...The problem with WD-40 and
rusting is because the solvent it contains also removes any oil that
is coating the part, if you need to protect from corrosion after
dispersing water you need to either recoat with oil or some other
sealing agent.



Posted by pete on April 10, 2008, 3:58 pm
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>
>
>
>
> > :Jerry: wrote:
>
> >> <snip>
> >>>> wd 40 will hold moisture ...
>
> >>> Cheers for that, I really appreciate your advise. It makes sense
> >>> about WD40 and the amount of condensation in the workshop sending
> >>> tings rusty. I'm not so worried now.
>
> >> Hmm, first time I've ever heard that said about WD40, considering
> >> that
> >> it was designed primarily as a water dispersant for electrical
> >> circuits etc. In fact it's first use was in the USA space/defence
> >> programme as a water displacer and corrosion inhibitor...
>
> >> Now I don't normally suggest that people read Wikipeadia, do to the
> >> gross unreliability of the facts contained within (due to the
> >> policy
> >> of allowing anyone edit without first proving their knowledge) but
> >> this brief page on WD-40 is very close to the fact that have been
> >> known for over 40 years -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40
>
> >> I suppose what might be the problem is the cheapo imitations that
> >> are around that claim to have some of the same properties as WD-40,
> >> many of these do indeed contain a high degree of water as they are
> >> not actually marketed as water displacers, being just penetrating
> >> oils instead. The other problem is, as Trevor has pointed out,
> >> WD-40 is very good at removing other oils too...
>
> > I think the problem lies in the fact that as WD-40 is a water
> > dispersant, it seems to do this by forming a
> > solution/mixture/emulsion with the water, everything else evaporates
> > fast leaving just the water behind.
>
> No, it doesn't leave the water behind, if it did that it wouldn't be a
> water dispersant!
>
>
>
> > I use WD-40 only when I need a solvent, not a lubricant -
>
> <snip>
>
> I only use WD-40 when I want to remove water from hard to reach areas,
> when I need a solvent I use a solvent <g>...The problem with WD-40 and
> rusting is because the solvent it contains also removes any oil that
> is coating the part, if you need to protect from corrosion after
> dispersing water you need to either recoat with oil or some other
> sealing agent.

What about using 3 in 1 oil? Pete

Posted by Trevor Jones on April 10, 2008, 6:56 pm
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pete wrote:

>
> What about using 3 in 1 oil? Pete

Just how much money can you afford to burn? Waste? Throw away?

Work out the cost per liter of that stuff!

Read the label. The stuff I have says that it's 20 weight oil.

Buy a liter of non-detergent oil and save yer coin for tools.

Cheers
Trev


Posted by Cliff Coggin on April 11, 2008, 3:11 am
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>
> What about using 3 in 1 oil? Pete

You are 10 days late for April first <g>

Cliff Coggin.



Posted by Richard on April 11, 2008, 5:39 am
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On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:58:19 -0700 (PDT), pete

>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > :Jerry: wrote:
>>
>> >> <snip>
>> >>>> wd 40 will hold moisture ...
>>
>> >>> Cheers for that, I really appreciate your advise. It makes sense
>> >>> about WD40 and the amount of condensation in the workshop sending
>> >>> tings rusty. I'm not so worried now.
>>
>> >> Hmm, first time I've ever heard that said about WD40, considering
>> >> that
>> >> it was designed primarily as a water dispersant for electrical
>> >> circuits etc. In fact it's first use was in the USA space/defence
>> >> programme as a water displacer and corrosion inhibitor...
>>
>> >> Now I don't normally suggest that people read Wikipeadia, do to the
>> >> gross unreliability of the facts contained within (due to the
>> >> policy
>> >> of allowing anyone edit without first proving their knowledge) but
>> >> this brief page on WD-40 is very close to the fact that have been
>> >> known for over 40 years -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40
>>
>> >> I suppose what might be the problem is the cheapo imitations that
>> >> are around that claim to have some of the same properties as WD-40,
>> >> many of these do indeed contain a high degree of water as they are
>> >> not actually marketed as water displacers, being just penetrating
>> >> oils instead. The other problem is, as Trevor has pointed out,
>> >> WD-40 is very good at removing other oils too...
>>
>> > I think the problem lies in the fact that as WD-40 is a water
>> > dispersant, it seems to do this by forming a
>> > solution/mixture/emulsion with the water, everything else evaporates
>> > fast leaving just the water behind.
>>
>> No, it doesn't leave the water behind, if it did that it wouldn't be a
>> water dispersant!
>>
>>
>>
>> > I use WD-40 only when I need a solvent, not a lubricant -
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> I only use WD-40 when I want to remove water from hard to reach areas,
>> when I need a solvent I use a solvent <g>...The problem with WD-40 and
>> rusting is because the solvent it contains also removes any oil that
>> is coating the part, if you need to protect from corrosion after
>> dispersing water you need to either recoat with oil or some other
>> sealing agent.
>
>What about using 3 in 1 oil? Pete

As poor quality varnish goes I do find it exceptionally slow
drying....

Richard

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