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Goofed, broken drill into workpiece :-(( Steve 03-22-2008
Posted by mark on March 23, 2008, 8:02 am
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> > On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:22:04 -0000, "Steve"
> > wrote:
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> >>I've managed, =A0through nothing but carelessness, =A0to break a 1.5mm d=
rill
> >>bit
> >>in the cylinder head of the little glow motor I'm (still) making. =A0 On=
ly
> >>one
> >>hole left to complete and I broke the soddin' bit into the head. =A0 I'v=
e
> >>been
> >>dripping sulphuric acid into the hole for the past couple of days,
> >>without
> >>seemingly much progress.
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> >>Any better ideas for getting the broken bit out? =A0Is there anything be=
tter
> >>than H2SO4 to do this job?
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> >>I can bodge it , =A0but rather not without trying.
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> >>Steve
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> > If it were carbon steel in an aluminium head then dilute nitric acid wou=
ld
> > get
> > the steel out without harming the aluminium. HSS is, I think, more work.=

> > Can
> > check tomorrow.
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> > Is the hole for a head mounting screw? If so, how about:-
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> > Is the drill broken off flush? if not then drill 1.5mm into a bit of ste=
el
> > bolted to the drill press table to act as a locator, then put a pin in t=
he
> > hole to locate the buggered hole with. Failing that, make a template wit=
h
> > the
> > hole locations out of a bit of scrap and screw that to the underside of
> > the
> > head with some of the existing holes.
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> > Once you've done that, carefully drill from the other side until you mee=
t
> > the
> > broken screw. Then punch the broken screw out with a 1mm, or less, punch=
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> > Finally, clean up the hole.
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> > Mark Rand
> > RTFM
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> What've got is an aluminium head machined from bar stock, =A0and the hole =
is
> one of four for holding down the exhaust manifold flange. =A0The drill is =
a
> 1.5mm HSS hertel and its broken off below the top of the hole (only just).=

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> I can't get at the hole from the other side.
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> I'm using conc sulphuric, =A0hadn't thought that diluting it would actuall=
y
> work faster! =A0 The anodising trick sounds interesting.
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> Not sure how to acquire smal quantities of Nitric acid locally either. =A0=
Our
> local chemist is nervous about selling me 500ml bottles of IsoPropyl
> Alcohol, =A0so asking for Nitric will probably give him a heart attack.
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> Thanks for the accumulated wisdom - back into the shed to have another go.=

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some windscreen washer winter additives are 100 percent isopropyl

so dont go wasteing your money at the chemist .when 1 litre of the
stuff can be bought for =A31.29

all the best.mark

Posted by Steve R. on March 23, 2008, 11:19 pm
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> Not sure how to acquire smal quantities of Nitric acid locally either. Our
> local chemist is nervous about selling me 500ml bottles of IsoPropyl
> Alcohol, so asking for Nitric will probably give him a heart attack.
>
> Thanks for the accumulated wisdom - back into the shed to have another go.
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> Steve- Hide quoted text -
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some windscreen washer winter additives are 100 percent isopropyl

so dont go wasteing your money at the chemist .when 1 litre of the
stuff can be bought for £1.29

all the best.mark


Interesting! Here in British Columbia, isopropyl alcohol is available off
the shelf in most drug stores (chemists). I find all sorts of uses for it.


Steve R.


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Posted by the wizard on March 23, 2008, 12:23 pm
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>Hi Steve,
Nitric Acid can be purchased in small quantities as "Cartridge Case
Cleaner"- Try a Gunsmiths or shooting accessories shop, even in these
paranoid days there are still some about, just. I bought mine many
years ago at an ME show from a company called "DELWAY TECHNICAL
SERVICES" very old phone number 051 639 3201 they market Metal
Blacking kits. or at least they used to.
It does work, my "apprentice" broke a M2 tap in a microscope I was
making, took a couple of hours to dissolve away, leaving a black
sludge in an untouched hole.
T.W.

Posted by the wizard on March 23, 2008, 12:30 pm
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> >Hi Steve,
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> Nitric Acid can be purchased in small quantities as "Cartridge Case
> Cleaner"- Try a Gunsmiths or shooting accessories shop, even in these
> paranoid days there are still some about, just. I bought mine many
> years ago at an ME show from a company called "DELWAY TECHNICAL
> SERVICES" very old phone number 051 639 3201 they =A0market Metal
> Blacking kits. or at least they used to.
> It does work, my "apprentice" broke a M2 tap in a microscope I was
> making, took a couple of hours to dissolve away, leaving a black
> sludge in an untouched hole.
> T.W.

Number should be changed to 0151 639 3201

Posted by Michael Gray on March 23, 2008, 1:46 pm
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:20:41 +0000, Steve wrote:

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>>>I've managed, through nothing but carelessness, to break a 1.5mm drill
>>>bit
>>>in the cylinder head of the little glow motor I'm (still) making. Only
>>>one
>>>hole left to complete and I broke the soddin' bit into the head. I've
>>>been
>>>dripping sulphuric acid into the hole for the past couple of days,
>>>without
>>>seemingly much progress.
>>>
>>>Any better ideas for getting the broken bit out? Is there anything
>>>better than H2SO4 to do this job?
>>>
>>>I can bodge it , but rather not without trying.
>>>

Could you use differential expansion to your profit?
Aluminium has a coeff. of expansion about double that of steel. Perhaps
drop the whole bollixed lot into boiling water for a while, lift out and
give it a sharp rap.
Let us know.
Mike in BC

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