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Hardite info? Jordan 01-08-2008
Posted by ravensworth2674 on January 19, 2008, 3:46 am
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wrote:
> Jordan wrote:
> > I found a half-tin of Hardite case hardening powder.
> > The tin's outer is partly rusted, and any instructions that might have
> > been on it are not readable.
> > Is there some place where I can find instructions on how to use it?
>
> Is this stuff just graphite powder, or is it more complex than that? I
> don't think graphite powder would go off.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Chris

Chris,
Most of us assume that the tin contains a mixture of
ppotassium ferrocyanide and barium chloride. If this is correct, there
was a case hardening compound( mixture) of this name and this was
subsequently banned because of its poisonous nature. I linked it with
the stuff that that was used to exterminate millions in Europe. I
would have been on the list on more than one account!

In a few days time, you will be reminded of Holocaust Day.
Correction-- I will

Most of us are here because of the sacrifice of others.
Nazi Germany left three Red Cross workers in Norway.Has the penny
dropped?

Norman- a Red Cross member, a member of the Goat and Compasses, Past
my sell by date and infirm and pedant extraordinaire!

Posted by Jordan on January 19, 2008, 6:51 am
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ravensworth2674 wrote:
> ...

Very enjoyable responses Norman, and with a bit of info that I can
fathom too.

Good health!
Jordan

Posted by Christopher Tidy on January 19, 2008, 4:08 pm
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ravensworth2674 wrote:
> wrote:
>
>>Jordan wrote:
>>
>>>I found a half-tin of Hardite case hardening powder.
>>>The tin's outer is partly rusted, and any instructions that might have
>>>been on it are not readable.
>>>Is there some place where I can find instructions on how to use it?
>>
>>Is this stuff just graphite powder, or is it more complex than that? I
>>don't think graphite powder would go off.
>>
>>Best wishes,
>>
>>Chris
>
>
> Chris,
> Most of us assume that the tin contains a mixture of
> ppotassium ferrocyanide and barium chloride. If this is correct, there
> was a case hardening compound( mixture) of this name and this was
> subsequently banned because of its poisonous nature. I linked it with
> the stuff that that was used to exterminate millions in Europe. I
> would have been on the list on more than one account!
>
> In a few days time, you will be reminded of Holocaust Day.
> Correction-- I will
>
> Most of us are here because of the sacrifice of others.
> Nazi Germany left three Red Cross workers in Norway.Has the penny
> dropped?
>
> Norman- a Red Cross member, a member of the Goat and Compasses, Past
> my sell by date and infirm and pedant extraordinaire!

Interesting. So if you got a piece of mild steel cherry red, then dunked
it in a tin of graphite powder, would that be an ineffective method of
case hardening?

Best wishes,

Chris


Posted by ravensworth2674 on January 19, 2008, 4:59 pm
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Chris.
Frankly, I think that you are not reading the plot!

In the past few contributions, there has been mention of the old
Japanese and the German/English swordmakers starting off with a lump
of iron out of a beehive oven and folding carbon onto it like a Swiss
Roll into tool steel. To all intents and purposes graphite is like
diamond, a form of carbon. We seem to be going around in ever
decreasing circles like the Ouzle Woozle Bird. If we really got
technical, we could also find suitable carbon to remove to make room
to accomodate it.

Sorry, but we are flogging a dead horse. Come to think of it, we could
use it to case harden.

Who will say Nay( neigh)?

Norman

Posted by Christopher Tidy on January 19, 2008, 5:01 pm
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ravensworth2674 wrote:
>
> Chris.
> Frankly, I think that you are not reading the plot!
>
> In the past few contributions, there has been mention of the old
> Japanese and the German/English swordmakers starting off with a lump
> of iron out of a beehive oven and folding carbon onto it like a Swiss
> Roll into tool steel. To all intents and purposes graphite is like
> diamond, a form of carbon. We seem to be going around in ever
> decreasing circles like the Ouzle Woozle Bird. If we really got
> technical, we could also find suitable carbon to remove to make room
> to accomodate it.
>
> Sorry, but we are flogging a dead horse. Come to think of it, we could
> use it to case harden.
>
> Who will say Nay( neigh)?

I'm not sure I follow you, Norman. I was just asking if pure graphite
powder would work for case hardening.

Chris


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