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Just got my first milling machine - a Centec 2A Cheshire Steve 04-21-2008
Posted by elj221c on April 22, 2008, 10:36 am
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Steve,
Mark is correct that the manual is in the files section of
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/centec_milling_machines/
Unfortunately the site is not very busy but there is someone else
there who has had raising blocks made. I think they have all sold but he
may do another run. They were MUCH cheaper than the ones on the other
site mentioned.
I have had my 2A for about five years but have yet to power it up as
I still have not finished building my workshop. Somebody else wants the
house finished first!
The 1" horizontal arbour was actually made by the PO. He did not
include a key as he thought it better the cutter spun on the arbour
rather than damage the gears if the cutter were to jam. It looks to be a
straightforward turning job apart from milling the flats for the
spanner.

Roy
2A CB988


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Posted by mark on April 22, 2008, 10:55 am
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> Steve,
> Mark is correct that the manual is in the files section ofhttp://groups.ya=
hoo.com/group/centec_milling_machines/
> Unfortunately the site is not very busy but there is someone else
> there who has had raising blocks made. I think they have all sold but he
> may do another run. They were MUCH cheaper than the ones on the other
> site mentioned.
> I have had my 2A for about five years but have yet to power it up as
> I still have not finished building my workshop. Somebody else wants the
> house finished first!
> The =A01" horizontal arbour was actually made by the PO. He did not
> include a key as he thought it better the cutter spun on the arbour
> rather than damage the gears if the cutter were to jam. It looks to be a
> straightforward turning job apart from milling the flats for the
> spanner.
>
> Roy
> 2A CB988
>
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John Ward has the bare castings for the riser ...if you fancy doing
the machining yourself ...
for about =A350

This info was given to me by himself ...
He does batches ...
When they run out ...
it may be months before he decides to do any more

anyway ...just before Christmas or there abouts , when i visited him,
he had several .

BTW .he isn't very email savvy .....he does not have a computer at
home ......so phone is best.

all the best.markj

Posted by Cheshire Steve on April 22, 2008, 3:09 pm
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> Steve,
> Mark is correct that the manual is in the files section
ofhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/centec_milling_machines/
> Unfortunately the site is not very busy but there is someone else
> there who has had raising blocks made. I think they have all sold but he
> may do another run. They were MUCH cheaper than the ones on the other
> site mentioned.
> I have had my 2A for about five years but have yet to power it up as
> I still have not finished building my workshop. Somebody else wants the
> house finished first!
> The 1" horizontal arbour was actually made by the PO. He did not
> include a key as he thought it better the cutter spun on the arbour
> rather than damage the gears if the cutter were to jam. It looks to be a
> straightforward turning job apart from milling the flats for the
> spanner.
>
> Roy
> 2A CB988
>
> --
> elj221c
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> elj221c's Profile:http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=37570
> View this thread:http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=853083

Five years ! I have only had mine a day and want to get it going. That
is true patience :-)

I have applied to the Yahoo group - though it took me four attempts to
enter a correct decoding of the distorted wording that is the anti-
spammer protection. Hopefully that will answer my questions.

I thought 8 inches between the quill and the table would be good
enough to start, but I can see how that gets rapidly eaten up. Two
inches for the ER25 and then at least another inch for the cutter, but
that still leaves 5 inches. If I need a really big gap then I can mill
in the lathe. Just so long as I don't need a big traverse and a large
gap at the same time. Only 6 5/8 inches for the horizontal spindle may
be a bit more of a problem, but then I am making small items right
now.

It will do for now.

Steve

Posted by Trevor Jones on April 22, 2008, 7:57 pm
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Cheshire Steve wrote:
>
>>Steve,
>>Mark is correct that the manual is in the files section
ofhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/centec_milling_machines/
>>Unfortunately the site is not very busy but there is someone else
>>there who has had raising blocks made. I think they have all sold but he
>>may do another run. They were MUCH cheaper than the ones on the other
>>site mentioned.
>>I have had my 2A for about five years but have yet to power it up as
>>I still have not finished building my workshop. Somebody else wants the
>>house finished first!
>>The 1" horizontal arbour was actually made by the PO. He did not
>>include a key as he thought it better the cutter spun on the arbour
>>rather than damage the gears if the cutter were to jam. It looks to be a
>>straightforward turning job apart from milling the flats for the
>>spanner.
>>
>>Roy
>>2A CB988
>>
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>
>
> Five years ! I have only had mine a day and want to get it going. That
> is true patience :-)
>
> I have applied to the Yahoo group - though it took me four attempts to
> enter a correct decoding of the distorted wording that is the anti-
> spammer protection. Hopefully that will answer my questions.
>
> I thought 8 inches between the quill and the table would be good
> enough to start, but I can see how that gets rapidly eaten up. Two
> inches for the ER25 and then at least another inch for the cutter, but
> that still leaves 5 inches. If I need a really big gap then I can mill
> in the lathe. Just so long as I don't need a big traverse and a large
> gap at the same time. Only 6 5/8 inches for the horizontal spindle may
> be a bit more of a problem, but then I am making small items right
> now.
>
> It will do for now.
>
> Steve

I have a 2A that gets a little use. It came with the "good" vertical
head, and power feed (re-motored to run on our 110 volts) as well as a
single phase motor. It has the metal stand, and I still have the
switches and contactors for 3 phase use, buried in the base.

I thought I paid too much for it, but, for now, would not consider
replacing it, unless something much nicer came down the pipe.

The headspace goes fast! You start looking at all the tooling with an
eye to picking the shortest one.

It pretty much has the same envelope, as a Sherline mill, but it was
made in a time when iron was fairly inexpensive, and these mills were
built to an indstrial standard, more than a hobby one.

I have made a few end mill holders from drawbar thread equipped drill
shank adapters and blank end MT2 arbors.

Usefull enough a tool to keep in the basement, where a larger machine
would not fit very well.

I figure a riser block is in the future for the 2A, though. A couple
extra inches of headspace will allow us of a proper vise, rather than
the low profile drill press vise that lives there now.

So far the inability to come up with a vise I like, that is an
appropriate size, has been my biggest beef with it. Small worries indeed!

Cheers
Trevor Jones


Posted by Cheshire Steve on April 23, 2008, 4:04 am
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> Cheshire Steve wrote:
>
> >>Steve,
> >>Mark is correct that the manual is in the files section
ofhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/centec_milling_machines/
> >>Unfortunately the site is not very busy but there is someone else
> >>there who has had raising blocks made. I think they have all sold but he
> >>may do another run. They were MUCH cheaper than the ones on the other
> >>site mentioned.
> >>I have had my 2A for about five years but have yet to power it up as
> >>I still have not finished building my workshop. Somebody else wants the
> >>house finished first!
> >>The 1" horizontal arbour was actually made by the PO. He did not
> >>include a key as he thought it better the cutter spun on the arbour
> >>rather than damage the gears if the cutter were to jam. It looks to be a
> >>straightforward turning job apart from milling the flats for the
> >>spanner.
>
> >>Roy
> >>2A CB988
>
> >>--
> >>elj221c
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> >>elj221c's Profile:http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=37570
> >>View this thread:http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=853083
>
> > Five years ! I have only had mine a day and want to get it going. That
> > is true patience :-)
>
> > I have applied to the Yahoo group - though it took me four attempts to
> > enter a correct decoding of the distorted wording that is the anti-
> > spammer protection. Hopefully that will answer my questions.
>
> > I thought 8 inches between the quill and the table would be good
> > enough to start, but I can see how that gets rapidly eaten up. Two
> > inches for the ER25 and then at least another inch for the cutter, but
> > that still leaves 5 inches. If I need a really big gap then I can mill
> > in the lathe. Just so long as I don't need a big traverse and a large
> > gap at the same time. Only 6 5/8 inches for the horizontal spindle may
> > be a bit more of a problem, but then I am making small items right
> > now.
>
> > It will do for now.
>
> > Steve
>
> I have a 2A that gets a little use. It came with the "good" vertical
> head, and power feed (re-motored to run on our 110 volts) as well as a
> single phase motor. It has the metal stand, and I still have the
> switches and contactors for 3 phase use, buried in the base.
>
> I thought I paid too much for it, but, for now, would not consider
> replacing it, unless something much nicer came down the pipe.
>
> The headspace goes fast! You start looking at all the tooling with an
> eye to picking the shortest one.
>
> It pretty much has the same envelope, as a Sherline mill, but it was
> made in a time when iron was fairly inexpensive, and these mills were
> built to an indstrial standard, more than a hobby one.
>
> I have made a few end mill holders from drawbar thread equipped drill
> shank adapters and blank end MT2 arbors.
>
> Usefull enough a tool to keep in the basement, where a larger machine
> would not fit very well.
>
> I figure a riser block is in the future for the 2A, though. A couple
> extra inches of headspace will allow us of a proper vise, rather than
> the low profile drill press vise that lives there now.
>
> So far the inability to come up with a vise I like, that is an
> appropriate size, has been my biggest beef with it. Small worries indeed!
>
> Cheers
> Trevor Jones

Thanks Trevor,

It seems a slightly odd combination of industrial strength castings
and modest table size, but no complaints there. I think of it more
like a hobby sized machine made to industrial standards.

What oil do you use in the box and vertical head ?

Steve

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