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Midlands show report... Tony Jeffree 10-13-2006
Posted by Pat Martindale on October 14, 2006, 7:52 am
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>What with the
>Olympia debacle showing signs of melt-down, it looks to me as if
>Harrogate will soon be the only show worth visiting.
>
>Isnt the Harrogate show moving to Pickering next year,
>

As secretary of a Society that exhibits at both Harrogate and Pickering
I can tell you that both shows are scheduled for next year.

Harrogate: 11 / 12 / 13 May

Pickering: 14 / 15 / 16 September

I checked that dates this week with the events office as I needed them
to prepare our club calendar for next year.

Unless trade and club involvement picks up at Pickering I cannot see the
event surviving beyond 2007


Regards,
--
Pat Martindale

Posted by Mark Rand on October 13, 2006, 6:38 pm
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>Just back from the show. Seemed VERY quiet compared with last year,
>with various traders commenting that takings for the day were well
>down - one major stallholder quoted around 40% compared with the same
>time period last year. With Meridienne choosing to charge even more
>this year than for stand space, it will be interesting to see which of
>the commercial stands decide not to bother next time. What with the
>Olympia debacle showing signs of melt-down, it looks to me as if
>Harrogate will soon be the only show worth visiting.
>
>Not a lot that was terribly new apart from John's X3 conversion on the
>Arc Euro stand. Had a natter with one or two reprobates that haunt
>these threads, spent too much on bits that I don't really need...so
>situation normal I guess.
>
>Regards,
>Tony


There did seem to be quite a large number of reprobates in the show today.

I was slightly disappointed to not find a couple of bits that I was looking
for. But given that The Tee site (or whateverthehell its called) is less than
the size of one of the Harrogate halls, It's not surprising that there aren't
as many traders and their stalls are smaller. Even given the price of stall
space, the space seemed to have been sold. One assumes that the price is "what
the market will bear". One thing that was new in this exhibition was that, as
far as I could tell, there were only two Quorns :-).

I will definitely go next year but, given that it's in my back yard, I'd be a
fool not to.

The "bar" is non existent, apart from bottles of Pedigree and Everard's Tiger
at the cafe. The food, however, was good solid stuff. Enough snake and kidney
pie to keep you going for a week with chips, vegetables and gravy for about a
fiver. That is much better than Harrogate. OTOH Harrogate is about 300 yards
from Tesco's.

Spent money on some more silver steel, BSW and BSF nuts, some pin punches,
re-stocking on Proops brass brushes and a 2.2mm insert parting tool from
Jenny. Tried that out tonight on the first piece of bar I could find when I
got home. I'm now converted to TC insert parting tools :-)


Mark Rand
RTFM

Posted by Tim Leech on October 14, 2006, 3:03 pm
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wrote:

>Just back from the show. Seemed VERY quiet compared with last year,
>with various traders commenting that takings for the day were well
>down - one major stallholder quoted around 40% compared with the same
>time period last year. With Meridienne choosing to charge even more
>this year than for stand space, it will be interesting to see which of
>the commercial stands decide not to bother next time. What with the
>Olympia debacle showing signs of melt-down, it looks to me as if
>Harrogate will soon be the only show worth visiting.
>
>Not a lot that was terribly new apart from John's X3 conversion on the
>Arc Euro stand. Had a natter with one or two reprobates that haunt
>these threads, spent too much on bits that I don't really need...so
>situation normal I guess.
>

I was there today, didn't fancy the drive so caught the train.
Disappointing that there seemed to be quite a few less stands than a
couple of years ago at Donington. A couple of notable absentees, and
no tat stalls, which is a mixed blessing. Some of them were
interesting to rummage through, there might even be bargains among the
overpriced junk! Initially I wondered whether it was worth the
journey, eventually decided it probably was.
It wasn't overcrowded with punters, so there was a decent chance to
see what was on offer. I spoke to a couple of traders who seemed
reasonably upbeat about their level of business.
I bought a few oddments, some tweezers from Proops, a couple of
electrical switches, a few bits from Jenny at JB, etc., the only real
money spent was on some 5C collet arbors from Arc Euro.
I arrived back at Leamington station on the bus, checked my bags &
found the one with the 5C bits was missing :-((.
Stopped on the bus, went back to the do trying to think where I might
have left it (I had made one more call after ArcEuro). Found my
carrier bag sitting on the grass verge by the bus stop, one handle
broken! I must have picked it up by one handle & not realised it had
failed. Tried to pick it up, the other handle broke. Dead lucky it was
all there <G>
Message to Ketan if you're reading this, Proops' bags are stronger
than yours <VBG>

Cheers

Tim

Dutton Dry-Dock
Traditional & Modern canal craft repairs
Vintage diesel engine service

Posted by Malcolm Stewart on October 14, 2006, 5:13 pm
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> Just back from the show. Seemed VERY quiet compared with last year,
> with various traders commenting that takings for the day were well
> down - one major stallholder quoted around 40% compared with the same
> time period last year.
snip
> Regards,
> Tony

Yesterday was my first visit having been to the one at Alexandra Palace last
January. My main comment is that nobody seemed to be giving brochures away,
whereas at AP they were visible, and generally for the taking, although a
few were charged for. Hidden behind the counter and available if requested,
I would guess.

I'm somewhat deaf, but unfortunately had no difficulty hearing(?) the
various mechanical organs. Felt quite sorry for those with stands in the
same hall. Why can't their volume be varied in a downwards direction?
Interesting to note that none of the exhibiting clubs/societies came from
anywhere near my neck of the woods. We're better on warehouses and clothes
shops, and more clothes shops, than engineering!

Contented myself by getting a 200 x 300 x 50 mm granite surface plate from
RDG Tools. Very surprised to find a numbered calibration certificate inside
the box. (Wonder if it applies to <my> surface plate or to their very best
seeing that the quoted figures are as good as an AA Lab grade.)
Somewhat worried that I (now 68) felt quite young amongst the other visitors
and constructors/showmen. Will their skills be handed down and will there
be an exhibition in 20 years time? Or do engineers age at a high rate?


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M Stewart
Milton Keynes, UK



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Posted by Peter Neill on October 15, 2006, 4:46 am
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wrote:

>Just back from the show.

I went on Saturday. Bit of a haul from down east but quite enjoyed it.
Like others have said before I noticed less trade stands than Ally
Pally, and the machinery dealers didn't have their larger stuff there.

Lots of models and working traction engines, which although not my
thing at all were nevertheless impressive for the work that went into
them.

Bought a Stevenson spin indexer from Arc Euro and a couple of Myford
chuck backplates from the same. Having taken my mitutoyo calipers with
me to check the register on these I was very impressed with the Arc
Euro/LA Services part as they were just a thou' over my spindle size,
whereas the RDG ones were about 8 thou' larger and far more roughtly
machined.
A couple of boxes of tips from Jenny and silver solder from Cup alloys
and a cheap 12" stainless ruler from Proops rounded out the purchases.

As someone who has roundly cursed Chesters in the past over a true
heap of junk they supplied, I was very pleasantly surprised at the
apparant build quality of their new DB11 lathe, and the similar BL11
clone on the Engineers toolroom stand. Nice wide bed that is massively
cast underneath and both looked very good. They have even remembered
to finally put the leadscrew reverse on these things.

After the show went to the pub in Ufton with JS & son Adam, JG, and
Mark Rand for an enjoyable couple of hours chat, but unfortunately
drinking shandy instead of the rather fine beers on offer.

Got home at midnght, too tired to play with the new toys, but off to
the workshop now to have a fiddle.

Peter

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